[#83322] Saving and restoring with YAML — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
Hi all,
Ben Giddings wrote:
Ok, silly question.
[#83328] tcltklib and not init'ing tk — aakhter@... (Aamer Akhter)
Hello,
[#83329] Ruby 1.8.0 rpm? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I want to install on a box where I don't have root access.
[#83337] Include CONFIG::Config['rubydocdir'] in rbconfig.rb — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
Hi,
[#83391] mixing in class methods — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Okay, probably a dumb question, but: is there any way to define
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:02:32 +0900
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:08:00 AM, Ryan wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
>> It sometimes makes me wonder why Ruby differentiates between instance
Hi --
The assymetry between class/instance variables and class/instance
>>>>> "M" == Mark J Reed <markjreed@mail.com> writes:
[#83408] Getting a list of the files in a directory — revision17@... (Revision17)
Hi, I'm just starting out with ruby and I'm writing a script to rename
[#83411] Absolute class name? — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
If I do
Hi,
MJR = me
>>>>> "M" == Mark J Reed <markjreed@mail.com> writes:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:11:59PM +0900, ts wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:20:07PM +0000, Mark J. Reed wrote:
[#83413] I AWAIT YOUR URGENT RESPONSE — PETERS UJANI <peterujani@...>
Dear Sir,
[#83416] C or C++? — "Joe Cheng" <code@...>
I'd like to start writing Ruby extensions. Does it make a difference
The biggest problem i have with Ruby is the sleepness
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, paul vudmaska wrote:
>>--------
Hi --
I think it would be wonderful if Ruby could handle XML somewhat how Flash
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Zach Dennis wrote:
[#83470] Re: xml in Ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>
>>>
paul vudmaska wrote:
>>------------
paul vudmaska wrote:
[#83481] newbie question: function overloading — Dimitrios Galanakis <galanaki@...>
I need to define a method that performs differently when operated on objects
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Dimitrios Galanakis wrote:
[#83520] Account Verification — "eBay SafeHarbor" <noreply@...>
[#83533] FreeRide — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
Is it just my faulty perception or does the momentum behind FreeRIDE
I presented FreeRIDE as OSCON in July, but have not done much on it
[#83551] xml + ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>
>>---------
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:11:46 +0900, paul vudmaska wrote:
Zach Dennis wrote:
James,
On Friday 03 October 2003 02:20 pm, paul vudmaska wrote:
[#83554] hash of hashes — Paul Argentoff <argentoff@...>
Hi all.
On Friday 03 October 2003 14:04, Paul Argentoff wrote:
Paul Argentoff wrote:
[#83608] webrick, threads, and i/o — "Ara.T.Howard" <ahoward@...>
[#83627] Ruby/Extensions 0.2.0 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi -talk,
[#83665] Question about amrita and XHTML/CSS — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
I've been looking into amrita for my ruby web development, but I am
[#83671] Stop Immigration — "Vanguard News Network " <vanguardnn@...>
Stop Immigration
[#83675] fox-tool - interactive gui builder for fxruby — henon <user@...>
hi fellows,
il Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:17:16 GMT, henon <user@example.net> ha
gabriele renzi wrote:
Hi.
[#83727] map/collect iterating over multiple arrays/arguments — zoranlazarevic@... (Zoran Lazarevic)
Can I iterate over multiple arrays/collections?
[#83730] Re: Enumerable#inject is surprising me... — "Weirich, James" <James.Weirich@...>
> Does it surprise you?
Hi,
Hi,
Hi --
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:
>>>>> "d" == dblack <dblack@superlink.net> writes:
[#83741] Thread + fork warning — Ariff Abdullah <skywizard@...>
# ruby -e 'a = Thread.new { fork {} }; a.join'
[#83745] Re: Parsing challenge... — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets@...>
this script failed if any of the cell is blank/no-value,
[#83756] GC and the stack — "Thomas Sondergaard" <thomas@...>
Hello,
[#83758] usage of Regexp::EXTENDED — "Simon Strandgaard" <none@...>
How does it work ?
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:58:42 +0900, Jim Weirich wrote:
[#83771] Re: GC and the stack — "Weirich, James" <James.Weirich@...>
> Okay. What if, in an extension, I have an integer on the
[#83783] shorthand notation for multiline in regexps? — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
Is there a way to declare a multiline or ignorecase regexp without using
[#83795] Standard Queue Implementation and Thread Safety — Pete Kazmier <pete-temp-ruby-usenet-10082003@...>
First the disclaimer: I'm a newbie to ruby :-)
[#83801] Extension Language for a Text Editor — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
OK. So I'm going to write a text editor for my masters' thesis. The
You may want to look at the VIM's use of Ruby for writing extensions.
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:06:32 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 08 2003 22:30]:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:09:29 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 09 2003 09:10]:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:36:25 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 10 2003 16:49]:
On Oct 11, Nikolai Weibull wrote:
* Brett H. Williams <brett_williams@agilent.com> [Oct, 10 2003 20:50]:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:39:13 +0000, gabriele renzi wrote:
[#83802] Ruby Patriotism: Python+XML v. Ruby+YAML — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
We've got a good old-fashioned derby going on in blogoland. Perhaps
Has anyone benchmarked Python+YAML? You should account for all the variables.
[#83822] TUI library — "Imobach =?iso-8859-15?q?Gonz=E1lez=20Sosa?=" <imobachgs@...>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[#83843] case where regex range should raise — "Simon Strandgaard" <none@...>
irb(main):001:0> re = /bx{,2}c/
[#83850] Antwort: Re: SEPARATOR doesn't work — Robert.Koepferl@...
[#83985] Perl 6 style regular expressions — mark <msparshatt@...>
I was wondering if anyone has done any work on implementing Perl 6 style
[#83987] Project suggestion: Ruby code indenter — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
From the thread "Extension Language for a Text Editor":
* Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> [Oct, 10 2003 18:20]:
[#84041] mysql_num_rows equivalent for DBI? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
Is there a database-independent way of finding out how many rows were
paul vudmaska wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 05:17:19AM +0900, Ben Giddings wrote:
[#84049] splitting a line by columns — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...>
I have a line of text output in columnar form; what's the best way to split it
[#84056] Newbie Class variable question — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#84060] RDoc and i18n — KUBO Takehiro <kubo@...>
Hi,
KUBO Takehiro <kubo@jiubao.org> writes:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:27:41 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#84070] XPath and HTML — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
Is there a library out there that let's me parse HTML and use XPath
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, David Corbin wrote:
On Sunday 12 October 2003 17:36, Chad Fowler wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, David Corbin wrote:
[#84092] Resurrecting German mailing list? — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>
Hi!
[#84145] Parentheses — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
Hi,
[#84159] Rubygarden oddness — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
All,
[#84165] Re: Parentheses — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...>
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84169] General Ruby Programming questions — Simon Kitching <simon@...>
Simon Kitching wrote:
Florian Gross (flgr@ccan.de) wrote:
Hi Florian..
> [Simon wrote:]
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:06, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> [Simon wrote:]
Simon Kitching (simon@ecnetwork.co.nz) wrote:
Eric Hodel wrote:
[#84224] OT: Strict typing on large projects — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...>
I don't necessarily mean to stir a pot here, but was reading an
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 05:41:03AM +0900, Michael Campbell quipped:
[#84235] POLS ANT file pattern in Ruby — "Robert Dawson" <robert@...>
Hi,
[#84236] rubylucene - new & improved — Erik Hatcher <erik@...>
I had the pleasure of working with Rich Kilmer for a bit last weekend
[#84248] Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
A guy I (barely) know just tried to download Ruby
Hi!
Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT wrote:
[#84251] ANN: rjava — Hans Jörg Hessmann <hessmann@...>
RJava enables you to use Java classes from ruby using ruby-like syntax. For
[#84253] Email Harvesting — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
I've been receiving a lot of Swen emails to my ruby-talk address lately.
Hi,
[#84283] Any shift/reduce experts out there? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:47:03 +0900
On Tuesday, 21 October 2003 at 3:52:29 +0900, Ryan Pavlik wrote:
* Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> [Oct, 20 2003 21:20]:
[#84288] Mutex and Ruby Documentation Online — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I'm running into that mutex problem, where I need the same process to be able
[#84299] Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
sir matz@ruby-lang.org [mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org] humbly replied:
[#84305] Time: safe way to go to next day? — Emmanuel Touzery <emmanuel.touzery@...>
Hello,
[#84311] Formal Language Semantics — "Christopher C.Aycock" <christopher.aycock@...>
Does anyone know where I can get the formal language semantics for Ruby
[#84331] Re: Email Harvesting — Greg Vaughn <gvaughn@...>
Ryan Dlugosz said:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Greg Vaughn wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:35:32 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Ruben Vandeginste wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:34:32 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
[#84332] Array not Comparable? — "Warren Brown" <wkb@...>
In the past I have sorted arrays of arrays and so I knew that Array
Warren Brown wrote:
>>>>> "E" == Emmanuel Touzery <emmanuel.touzery@wanadoo.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 11:49:17 PM, ts wrote:
[#84341] Ruby-oriented Linux distro? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
There's been some talk of something like this in the past.
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 6:01:16 PM, Hal wrote:
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 11:02 am, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:03:19PM +0900, Andrew Walrond wrote:
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 2:48 pm, Michael Garriss wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:55:15PM +0900, Andrew Walrond wrote:
Michael Garriss wrote:
[#84350] ML <-> NG gateway is not working — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Folks,
[#84400] RubyGarden Wiki error — "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry@...>
I got this today while trying to edit my wiki-page at
[#84420] Struggling with variable arguments to block — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Hi -talk,
Hi,
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:03:32 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
Hi --
[#84462] Suggestion for an XML and ZLIB library? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Greetings all,
[#84467] Rubyx logo idea — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>
I've been thinking about a logo for Rubyx, my ruby based linux distro.
[#84480] How to include zip in a program. — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello all,
[#84485] Win32OLE issue in 1.8.0 — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
[#84501] File class doesn't work! — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Something is severely broken with my installation:
[#84514] Formatting (ANSI) highlighted strings — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
[#84529] Win32OLE again — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
>>>>> "S" == Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@MULTITECH.COM> writes:
[#84530] Crash in ruby 1.8.0 — "Brett H. Williams" <brett_williams@...>
This doesn't look right...
[#84531] OOoExtract v0.1 — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Greetings,
[#84534] Fatal recycling of SystemStackErrors — Florian Gross <flgr@...>
Moin!
[#84543] Ruby and XUL? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hi all,
[#84554] getoption long question — Daniel Bretoi <lists@...>
opts = GetoptLong.new(_
[#84555] system() isn't safe on win32 — Florian Gross <flgr@...>
Moin!
[#84574] Problem with seeking in existing files. — <agemoagemo@...>
I'm trying to write a program that will be writing
Hi,
[#84577] ruby 1.8.1 preview1 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
It's out.
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 04:41, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84585] Re: [ANN] win32-file 0.1.0 — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
> -----Original Message-----
[#84603] 1.8.1 failure — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Solaris 9
[#84604] ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...>
Hello,
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 07:01:28AM +0900, Takaaki Tateishi wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:17:59PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:36:23AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84611] 64-bit Ruby on Solaris? — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Hi all,
[#84626] Since today is October 31... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
srand 0
Re: tcltklib and not init'ing tk
On 10/1/03 4:34 PM, in article
20031001203415.GB2632@vor-lord.ftc.agilent.com, "Brett H. Williams"
<brett_williams@agilent.com> wrote:
> On Oct 2, Aamer Akhter wrote:
>>
>> Nice to see a fellow industry member dealing with the same problem ;-)
>>
>> On 10/1/03 10:06 AM, in article
>> 20031001140652.GA29212@vor-lord.ftc.agilent.com, "Brett H. Williams"
>> <brett_williams@agilent.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 1, Aamer Akhter wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the tcltklib extension in ruby 1.8. It seems to be working
>>>> well for my transition from tcl. There are a couple of stumbling
>>>> blocks I'm running into:
>>>>
>>>> 1) is there a way to _not_ start tk? When I create a new interpreter
>>>> (let's say from a non X-fwded ssh session) it may cause a failure. I'm
>>>> only interested in Tcl.
>>>
>>> This is a big pain for me as well. I would really like to have this fixed,
>>> as Ruby/Tcl interaction is important to me. But it hasn't been a big
>>> enough pain to try and hack around in the C code :) (yet)
>>
>> I'm more than willing to spend some time on this. But I'm new to ruby, and
>> to the tcl-C portions.
>>
>> It seems like the thing to do is be able to pass the desire for no tk in via
>> the new call:
>>
>> TclTkIp.new(notk => 1),
>>
>> It looks like tcltklib.c:ip_init() gets called. The current parameters wind
>> up being plugged into Tcl's argv0 and args. So, in keeping with the current
>> implementation perhaps something like:
>>
>> TclTkIp.new($argv0, $args, 1) would be "better"
>>
>> Where 1 represents the non-desire to load Tk.
>>
>> One would need to skip over when 1 is set.:
>>
>> /* from Tcl_AppInit() */
>> DUMP1("Tk_Init");
>> if (Tk_Init(ptr->ip) == TCL_ERROR) {
>> rb_raise(rb_eRuntimeError, "%s", ptr->ip->result);
>> }
>> DUMP1("Tcl_StaticPackage(\"Tk\")");
>> #if TCL_MAJOR_VERSION >= 8
>> Tcl_StaticPackage(ptr->ip, "Tk", Tk_Init, Tk_SafeInit);
>> #else
>> Tcl_StaticPackage(ptr->ip, "Tk", Tk_Init,
>> (Tcl_PackageInitProc *) NULL);
>> #endif
>
> This kind of approach has merit... however, in the current setup, simply
> doing:
>
> require 'tk'
I think I've been using the library at a lower layer. This is where I get
the problem:
[20:28:02] chapanoke:~> irb
irb(main):001:0> require 'tcltklib'
=> true
irb(main):002:0> ip = TclTkIp.new("bobo")
RuntimeError: this isn't a Tk applicationcouldn't connect to display
"chapanoke:0.0"
from (irb):2:in `initialize'
from (irb):2:in `new'
from (irb):2
I think 'tk' is probably doing a whole lot more than just loading tcltklib
>
> dies if the DISPLAY is not set. It seems a reorganization of how the
> tcltklib module is presented would be needed as well.
;-) that may well be true. I'm just guessing on the above addition. I
haven't tried anything yet.
>
> Am I missing a better way to get access to the Tcl interpreter?
>
>> ;-) yeah. I already ran into that. I've been using the ruby_fmt proc that
>> tcltk creates on init. That's just a wrapper for calling the ruby tcl
>> command.
>
> I have not been using this, but perhaps I should. The way I've been doing
> it usually leads to naming differences and confusion, like:
>
> TclFuncs = <<-EOTCL
> proc foo {args} {
> ruby {bar('$args')}
> }
> EOTCL
>
> #TclFuncs is evaled into the tcl interpreter...
>
> def bar(args)
> ...
> end
>
>
>>> You likely will have to do some creative things to get the scope that you
>>> want--Tcl can only communicate directly with class or global variables.
>>> This means if you call out to Tcl from Ruby, you will not have access to
>>> instance or local variables. It makes perfect sense, but typically
>>> requires doing some non-rubyish things to get access to what you need in
>>> Tcl.
>>
>> I don't think the importance of the above has sunk in yet. Do you mean to
>> say that in a class, I won't be able to do something like:
>>
>> Ip._eval("puts #{var}")
>
> No, because #{var} will be interpolated before the call to Tcl's eval.
>
> What I mean is that the following will not work (note that TclUtils
> provides some wrapper functionality that ultimately results in a call to
> Tk.tk_call("eval", cmd)... I didn't know about _eval which is probably what
> I should be using):
All roads eventually lead to _eval
>
> #tcl function defined as follows...
> proc some_proc {} {
> set somevar [ruby {do_something()}]
> }
>
> #and a ruby methods defined as...
> class SomeClass
> def do_something()
> ...
> return some_str
> end
>
> def some_instance_method()
> TclUtils.eval("some_proc")
> end
> end
>
> When you call some_instance_method(), and it runs the tcl proc 'some_proc',
> the Tcl interpreter is calling things at the basest level of Ruby scoping,
> so there will be no such method 'do_something' at that level.
Yes, that makes sense. And (given that you mentioned it) I see how it can
get annoying pretty quick.
> If this seemed obvious to you that such a thing wouldn't work, perhaps it
> is. But it is an ugliness you have to deal with when spanning the two
> worlds.
>
> I end up having a current_obj variable or something which can be gotten at
> with a class method at the Tcl level, i.e.:
>
> proc some_proc {} {
> set somevar [ruby {SomeClass.current_obj.do_something()}]
> }
>
> #and...
> class SomeClass
> def SomeClass.current_obj
> return @@current_obj
> end
>
> ...
>
> def some_instance_method()
> @@current_obj = self
> TclUtils.eval("some_proc")
> end
> end
>
> Ugly. Sinfully ugly. Luckily, I try to keep Ruby in control of most
> everything, and the Tcl is a configuration file, so I don't need to do this
> that often.