[#397093] Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Reginald Tan <lists@...>

Hi guys, I'm interested in building a program that will display the

18 messages 2012/07/03
[#397097] Re: Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2012/07/03

Reginald Tan писал 03.07.2012 05:11:

[#397115] Copying Files — "Alex C." <lists@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2012/07/03

[#397165] Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...>

I am new to Ruby. I am somewhat surprised that I was not able to find

56 messages 2012/07/04
[#397224] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

<<There are definitely many reasons to prefer native threads over green

[#397227] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397232] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067551:

[#397234] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397239] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067563:

[#397251] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:31 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397253] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067609:

[#397256] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397260] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2012/07/06

[#397267] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#397269] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Robert Klemme wrote in post #1067663:

[#397185] Insert letters of the alphabet between the original letters of a string — Joao Silva <lists@...>

Hi All.

10 messages 2012/07/04

[#397198] the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...>

thanks in advance i need a bit help to break the ice that my head is in.

18 messages 2012/07/05
[#397202] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397245] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/05

On 7/5/2012 10:03 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397258] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397316] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/07

On 7/6/2012 9:21 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397415] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/10

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397464] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/11

On 7/10/2012 12:08 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397416] learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

53 messages 2012/07/10
[#397418] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Hi,

[#397419] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Yes, that would be ok, but that means that the player has to create all

[#397421] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397423] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

"Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n" <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com> wrote in post

[#397424] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068109:

[#397426] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068110:

[#397428] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068114:

[#397429] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068117:

[#397430] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068119:

[#397435] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397608] undefined method error — deal bitte <lists@...>

rid.database_columns[session_db_array[0]]

17 messages 2012/07/17

[#397685] odd "system" command behaviour with CUI and GUI — Joel Pearson <lists@...>

Windows 7 64-bit, Ruby 1.9.3.

12 messages 2012/07/20

[#397738] Help a blind man getting ruby to work — "Morten T." <lists@...>

Hallo,

14 messages 2012/07/23

[#397806] Help with exercise from Chris Pine's Ruby Book: Sort without using .sort — "James H." <lists@...>

Hello all, I'm a n00b that's just getting into programming.

16 messages 2012/07/25

[#397817] modular exponentation with multiple exponents? — roob noob <lists@...>

I need to do a^b^c^d^e mod f

11 messages 2012/07/25

[#397903] How to test whether a session variable has a particular key — Doug Jolley <lists@...>

Although a session variable behaves like a hash for purposes of setting

11 messages 2012/07/30

Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ?

From: Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...>
Date: 2012-07-07 23:05:51 UTC
List: ruby-talk #397340
On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

> Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067715:
> > You're right, there is no debate! Pretty much all major virtual machines
> > have moved from green threads to native threads.
>
> Perhaps it depends on the definition of what is "major."  I won't get
> into that, everybody has their own definition I guess.  But all
> Smalltalk VMs I am aware of still use green threads.  Smalltalk VM is
> state of the art and has been developed for decades, so I don't see how
> it couldn't be considered "major."
>

It's more like Smalltalk VMs used to be state-of-the-art decades ago. Sun
hired the Anamorphic team (the creators of Strongtalk) to incorporate their
technology into the JVM. They also hired Cliff Click.

Cliff Click threw away the Strongtalk JIT compiler and rewrote it from
scratch. With the advent of pthreads, which weren't available at the time
these Smalltalk VMs you're referencing were written, green threads were
ditched for native threads. The result was HotSpot, the JVM we know today,
and it's slightly more state-of-the-art than any Smalltalk VM. Azul ran the
JVM on systems with 768 cores and heaps of 512GB or more.

Erlang processes are entirely "green," in the same way that a green
> thread is "green."  Yes, nowadays they can be mapped to 'real' threads
> running on multiple cores, and that's a good thing.


Sorry to get pedantic, but the term "green threads" was termed specifically
to distinguish the threading models of systems that don't use native
threads from ones which do (i.e. the opposite of "green threaded" is
"native threaded"). As soon as you have parallel OS threads (i.e. on a
multicore computer) managing the scheduling of multiple userspace
threads/"microthreads", you no longer have a "green threaded" system, you
have one which is using native threads. These sorts of systems have very
different properties from green threaded systems as there is true
parallelism. Different threads in the system will have different views of
memory at the same time.

Erlang used to be green threaded, however with the introduction of the SMP
scheduler in R12B Erlang gained native thread/multicore support and Erlang
processes began to run in parallel.

You are colluding terms and that is what is making the discussion difficult.

-- 
Tony Arcieri

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