[#3109] Is divmod dangerous? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

14 messages 2000/06/06

[#3149] Retrieving the hostname and port in net/http — Roland Jesse <jesse@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2000/06/07

[#3222] Ruby coding standard? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

16 messages 2000/06/09

[#3277] Re: BUG or something? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> |I am new to Ruby and this brings up a question I have had

17 messages 2000/06/12
[#3281] Re: BUG or something? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2000/06/12

Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@cinnober.com> writes:

[#3296] RE: about documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> I want to contribute to the ruby project in my spare time.

15 messages 2000/06/12

[#3407] Waffling between Python and Ruby — "Warren Postma" <embed@...>

I was looking at the Ruby editor/IDE for windows and was disappointed with

19 messages 2000/06/14

[#3410] Exercice: Translate into Ruby :-) — Jilani Khaldi <jilanik@...>

Hi All,

17 messages 2000/06/14

[#3415] Re: Waffling between Python and Ruby — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

>Static typing..., hmm,...

11 messages 2000/06/14

[#3453] Re: Static Typing( Was: Waffling between Python and Ruby) — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

32 messages 2000/06/16

[#3516] Deep copy? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

Given that I cannot overload =, how should I go about ensuring a deep

20 messages 2000/06/19

[#3694] Why it's quiet — hal9000@...

We are all busy learning the new language

26 messages 2000/06/29
[#3703] Re: Why it's quiet — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2000/06/30

Hi,

[#3705] Re: Why it's quiet — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2000/06/30

Hi,

[ruby-talk:03678] Re: Perl and Ruby: an Irony

From: Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>
Date: 2000-06-26 22:50:55 UTC
List: ruby-talk #3678
Hi,

Clemens Hintze wrote:

> >>>>> "Dat" == Dat Nguyen <thucdat@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>     >> From: Clemens Hintze <c.hintze@gmx.net> Reply-To:
>     >> ruby-talk@netlab.co.jp To: ruby-talk@netlab.co.jp (ruby-talk
>     >> ML) Subject: [ruby-talk:03659] Re: Perl and Ruby: an Irony
>     >> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:05:00 GMT
>
> ...
>
>     Dat> Clement,
>
> Dat,
>
>     Dat> Take it easy, it's a compliment to the answer of my
>     Dat> question. I am exploring and learning a new language. Your
>
> sorry about that! I was thinking that it was NO compliment, but I was
> wrong here! Sorry again. As I said: my English is much worse than I
> thought :-(

Well, don't be too critical of your English.

English, like Perl, can readily be written in easy-to-misinterpret ways.
(This is why some very young programmers sometimes mistakenly think that
English evolved from Perl. :-)

In the original context of the first posted solution and rather
dismissive reply and subsequent posted solution and subsequent reply that
preceded your 1st post on this thread, I had to read that last reply
twice before I realized what was intended. Another reason for this
initial misunderstanding is that "Your salary is not 2 cents at all." is
expressed as a negation and also switches/distorts the original
sense/context of the "2 cents worth" idiom/metaphor in a way that is
often used for sarcastic remarks--e.g. with the implication that your
salry might be worth, say, 3 cents. This is similar to what is known as
"damning with faint praise"--i.e. giving such little praise (or giving
praise so indirectly) that the conventional implication is that one does
not really intend to give any praise at all.

Even for native English users, for purposes of clear communication it is
generally much better to say "Ruby is very good" rather than "Ruby is not
bad at all".

--
Conrad Schneiker
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