[#363573] change csv file into html table — Pen Ttt <myocean135@...>
there is csv class showtable() function to change csv file into html
2010/6/1 Pen Ttt <myocean135@yahoo.cn>:
[#363586] If else condition in ruby not working — King Maker <sweetzubair@...>
i write simple code for button if button pressed than result is passed
[#363603] Ruby contractors — Jason Jackson <jasonjackson@...>
I apologize in advance if its not appropriate to post here. I found a
[#363639] Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...>
A Ruby newbie having trouble getting results back from geonames
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:
Michael Fellinger wrote:
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:30 AM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:
I'm confused. It's an array of one element, but that element has some
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:
[#363646] installation issue with Ruby gems on Ubuntu 8.04 — Santosh Dvn <santoshdvn@...>
Hi I am installing ruby gems on ubuntu 8.04 .. while installing i got
Santosh Dvn wrote:
Dimitri De Frenne wrote:
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Santosh Dvn <santoshdvn@gmail.com> wrote:
Josh Cheek wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:35m, Santosh Dvn <santosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
[#363662] having a class method called only one time ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)
I'd like having a class method called only one time ?
[#363680] webserver status, need better approach — Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@...>
Hey, I need a better way of checking if a webserver is online and
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@gmail.com> wrote:
I need the timeout timer for servers that have crashed, running
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@gmail.com> wrote:
[#363689] TCPSocket error — Ted Pon <ted_pon@...>
Hi all,
On 6/2/10, Ted Pon <ted_pon@hotmail.com> wrote:
Caleb Clausen wrote:
[#363717] gsub with wildcard — "Reinhart Viane" <rv@...>
Hello,
[#363724] dynamicaly define a method which body can contain yield — Regis d'Aubarede <regis.aubarede@...>
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Regis d'Aubarede
Robert Dober wrote:
[#363725] watir 1.6.5, ruby 1.8.7 and character encoding problem — Mario Ruiz <tcblues@...>
Hi,
[#363731] redirecting stdin for 3. party program — Thomas Secret <martin.gerdes@...>
OS: Debian Lenny
[#363751] indows XP SP2, Ruby 1.9.1: unable to install ruby-debug-ide — Tomasz Romanowski <techy_bolek@...>
On my Windows XP SP2 I got Ruby 1.9.1 I downloaded from
[#363752] Ruby Mendicant University — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...>
Hi folks,
[#363756] comparing objects — Anderson Leite <andersonlfl@...>
How can I compare two objects and get true if some of his atributes are
First, let's be clear about the semantics of the various comparison methods:
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Rein Henrichs <reinh@reinh.com> wrote:
Anderson Leite wrote:
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Marcin Wolski <wolskint@o2.pl> wrote:
Robert Dober wrote:
2010/6/4 Marcin Wolski <wolskint@o2.pl>:
Before
On 05.06.2010 00:35, Anderson Leite wrote:
I think that this is now well outside the scope of the original topic,
On 2010-06-10 06:59:40 -0700, Robert Dober said:
On 06/10/2010 05:27 PM, Rein Henrichs wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Robert Klemme
On 10.06.2010 18:27, Robert Dober wrote:
[#363761] Use a core C function not included in intern.h — Shinku Fag <tinbka@...>
Hello.
[#363764] Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Run Paint Run Run <runrun@...>
I'm writing a free ebook about Ruby 1.9 at http://ruby.runpaint.org/ .
On 4/6/2010 11:30 AM, Run Paint Run Run wrote:
> I'd say wiki - if it's in Markdown or Textile, it could be easy enough to
On 4/6/2010 11:55 AM, Run Paint Run Run wrote:
On 4 Jun 2010, at 05:17, Mohit Sindhwani wrote:
In the absence of a consensus, I suppose I'll keep to this kind of
[#363775] Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>
I feel I should start with some pre-emptive apologies. I used to subscribe to this list, but haven't been reading it for a year or so, so I may have missed the answer to my question. (I did try finding it in the list archives, of course.) Also, I'm a little frustrated, and that might adversely influence the tone of this message. I'll try to avoid that, but I beg your forgiveness if I sound a little snide.
On Jun 4, 3:29m, Dave Howell <groups.20...@grandfenwick.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2010 4:05 PM, Dave Howell wrote:
Dave Howell wrote:
Dave Howell wrote:
[#363777] Unexpected length of 贈 (pound) character? — Anthony Ss <anthony@...>
Hi,
[#363782] method_defined? does what exactly? — Intransition <transfire@...>
Ruby 1.9.2-head
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm maybe I was not very clear in my last post ;)
On Jun 4, 8:18m, Rob Biedenharn <R...@AgileConsultingLLC.com> wrote:
[#363800] class variables and modules — Ill Everbe <illeverbe@...>
I am trying to keep a history of object state in a parent class using a
[#363814] pack('m') and Windows files — Emiliano Vavassori <syntaxerrormmm@...>
Hi all,
[#363837] Clearing TOPLEVEL_BINDING for reuse — Intransition <transfire@...>
Is there anyway to delete all the local and instance variables in a
[#363843] Processing (potentially) nil method without using nested if — Ben Vishny <bvishny@...>
Hi all,
[#363847] 1.9 warning for 'private' and possible bug — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...>
[#363864] threads & mutex question (Rubyist book example) — Suraj Kurapati <sunaku@...>
Hi,
[#363865] Please explain this "Why's" example please — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>
I'm reading Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby.
[#363869] Packaging common code with gems — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
Let's say I have some common code, I use in various scripts or ruby
[#363883] inject method of Array class — RichardSchollar <richardgschollar@...>
I have only just started using Ruby (and am a total noob, in case this
On 2010-06-06 17:55:58 -0700, David A. Black said:
[#363884] Singleton classes and Namespce — Intransition <transfire@...>
Do singleton classes not get the same namespace treatment as normal
2010/6/6 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:
[#363905] Unit Testing good study material — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>
I am a beginner in ruby and I have read the "Unit testing" chapter in
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan
[#363906] Very simple programming exercises — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <
Josh Cheek wrote:
[#363916] using TkEntry with copy/paste — Mathew Cucuzella <kookjr@...>
I'm writing a Ruby/Tk program where I want a TkEntry field with a
[#363934] Question about abbreviated indexing assignments — Jörg W Mittag <JoergWMittag+Ruby@...>
Hi!
[#363944] Complex numbers contradiction? — Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@...>
This looks correct:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@sonos.com> wrote:
I have ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-08 patchlevel 173) [universal-darwin10.0]
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:
[#363950] questions of idiom — Collins <ccw.in.nc@...>
Hello List
[#363968] opengl problem (from gears sample) — Roberto Cm <roberto.tomas.cuentas@...>
I wanted to take a look at ruby's opengl but I'm having issues -- can
[#363972] keep eventmachine app running — Vect Vect <vectorno@...>
I want to find out how to get a event machine app running in the
Vect Vect wrote:
[#363976] Mr Bones — Tim Pease <tim.pease@...>
Mr Bones is a collection of rake tasks and a ruby command line application for creating projects from templates and building / testing / releasing those projects. It is similar to Hoe and Jeweler.
[#363977] Defining struct in a class — William Song <wei_song1990@...>
How can I properly define a struct in a class?
[#364003] atomic 0.0.1 - An atomic reference for Ruby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>
atomic: An atomic reference implementation for JRuby and green or GIL-threaded
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter
[#364010] Rubyzip - `dup': can't dup NilClass (TypeError) — Luka Stolyarov <lukich@...>
Hello. I've trying to figure out rubyzip. Here's the code I had:
Luka Stolyarov wrote:
I'll give it a try, thank you!
Luka Stolyarov wrote:
The 1.57 zipfile on this page fails for me:
Scott Bronson wrote:
Brian Candler wrote:
[#364038] How can I use Ruby with MS Excel? — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>
As much as I hate to say it, Microsoft Excel is here to stay and will
Jason Lillywhite wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Marvin Gker <sutniuq@gmx.net> wrote:
[#364047] Errno::ENOEXEC — Santhosh Kattissery <santhosh214@...>
I have the following line in my code:
(Apologies if this is a dupe... I sent a reply email to the ML but
Thanks for you reply.
[#364063] newbie question — lalawawa <usenet@...>
In perl, one is able to sort of 'declare' variables by mentioning them
[#364083] First Gem -- What can I model after? — sir ziggles <zigxxx@...>
Hi guys,
[#364092] Photos — Jeremy Axman <axman463@...>
Another thing..
[#364101] Why private #binding? — Intransition <transfire@...>
Why is #binding a private method? I end up doing a lot of this:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
[#364108] Metaprograming — Sateesh Kambhamapati <sateesh.mca09@...>
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Sateesh Kambhamapati
[#364118] How to print something with erb? — Dominic Rose <ofusiono@...>
Hello,
[#364127] RVM Snow Leopard — Ken Foust <fousto@...>
I just put in a new disk and I would like to install rvm in
[#364132] Question about testing self.inherited — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...>
Hi,
[#364160] Mechanize output:strange number — Pen Ttt <myocean135@...>
require 'mechanize'
[#364166] Option parsers that support single-dash words? — Jos Backus <jos@...>
Hi,
On 11.06.2010 07:40, Jos Backus wrote:
[#364171] case when and class — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)
I've found in case / when if the case is about a class :
[#364172] creating a gem structure for command line program — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
I've written a command line program. Would like to distribute it as a
On 2010-06-11 00:15:24 -0700, R.. Kumar said:
Rein Henrichs wrote:
[#364194] require command problem — Pen Ttt <myocean135@...>
i have write a class ,use command to put in the
[#364214] Business hours processing — Sławosz Sławiński <slawosz@...>
Hi,
[#364232] Does Oniguruma support unicode properties?? — Ntys Dd <ntysdd@...>
Well,when i want to use property in the regexp,ruby does complain that
[#364249] nokogiri error on snow leopard — Emmanuel Mercado <ermercado@...>
hi,
[#364262] require fails when requiring scripts with utf-8 filenames. — Daniel Jonson <odengfel@...>
Hi, I have a small problem with requiring files with utf-8 character in
[#364268] State of the union for Ruby CLI libraries? — John Feminella <johnf@...>
I am starting construction on a somewhat complicated internal
Thomas Sawyer wrote:
On 20.06.2010 12:47, R.. Kumar wrote:
[#364269] Do I overuse class methods? — Michał Zając <spam@...>
Hello,
[#364272] Idiomatic Printing an array with commas — Chuck Brotman <brotman@...>
Hi,
[#364273] Loading a module without polluting my namespace — Hagbard Celine <sin3141592@...>
Hey folks!
Hagbard Celine wrote:
Joel VanderWerf wrote:
Hagbard Celine wrote:
Thanks for your reply but I'm afraid that doesn't solve my problem. I
[#364305] Is there a current ruby binding to libevent? — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...>
Is anyone aware of a current binding to libevent?
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@ateb.com>wrote:
[#364312] Regular expressions in Ruby — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>
I'm new to Ruby, and just want to ask about how to read the following
[#364330] shorthand — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>
I read this once:
Roger Pack wrote:
[#364331] split doesn't work — Jennifer Lee <jmasonlee@...>
I have code:
[#364342] Placement of require() and missing symbols — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Eric MSP Veith
Kirk,
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Eric MSP Veith
I tried to unsubscribe on May 15th and I see I am still getting ruby
[#364349] gsub: invalid byte sequence in US-ASCII — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
I download the page http://www.ruby-forum.com/forum/4 using wget. Then i
[#364359] Unexpected behavior in inject — Alex Fort <imphasing@...>
I ran across something that puzzled me today, and I thought I'd ask here and
[#364371] datamapper blues — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
I'm investigating the use of DataMapper to convert an old project with
Richard,
[#364391] Simulating keystrokes for automated user input — Ryan Mohr <ryan.mohr@...>
I've written a simple console app (type command. get results. repeat.)
Ryan Mohr wrote:
Brian Candler wrote:
[#364402] Getting rid of self — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>
Have you tried it like this?
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:
On 2010-06-16 11:01:47 -0700, Josh Cheek said:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Rein Henrichs <reinh@reinh.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:
[#364412] Rubyforge => Redmine — Tom Copeland <tom@...>
Hi all -
[#364415] Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>
Hi,
Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan wrote:
Andrew Kaspick wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <
So here's the skinny on Ruby on Android (which I've dubbed "Ruboto")
This link will be very useful for you:
I don't find the Rhomobile way very appealing. I want to be able to
[#364418] strange behaviour if exploding parameters — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>
Hello!
[#364426] Input/Output to IRB using Pipes — Narayanan K <knarayanan88@...>
Hi,
[#364427] Encoding, "extended ansi", and unicode in 1.9 — Dennis Nedry <dennis@...>
I have a routine for converting ansi with "extended" ibm characters to
[#364474] Socket Problems — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>
I want to use a Ruby script to connect to a vendor API. I have 2
[#364480] RegEx Tutorial? — Siddarth Chandrasekaran <chandrasekaran.siddarth@...>
I looked through the archives, but couldn't find a comprehensive
[#364496] nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>
The Ruby Core forum has no new entry since four days ago.
Michel Demazure wrote:
Brian Candler wrote:
Michel Demazure wrote:
Brian Candler wrote:
Michel Demazure wrote:
[#364507] method interface - hash argument vs. named parameters — Intransition <transfire@...>
I've never run into this issue before, but I'm working on a method
[#364529] Dear gem: still no zlib. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>
I really really regret ever installing SnowLeopard.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Dave Howell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dave Howell
[#364568] How to print exit status to a log file? — Martin Hansen <mail@...>
Hello,
2010/6/18 Martin Hansen <mail@maasha.dk>:
I would like to print the exit status from within the current Ruby
Please don't top post.
Hm, I am not making myself clear :o( - It is the status of the ruby
[#364571] What kind of testing for executables? — Intransition <transfire@...>
What kind of testing is it when you test a projects executables:
[#364580] String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>
When I try for example to compare the following strings in Ruby, I get
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Abder-rahman Ali <
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Michael Fellinger <m.fellinger@gmail.com>wrote:
[#364587] Is there a method I can call where: — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>
[#364594] App with lots of business logic — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...>
Hi, starting basically my biggest project to date (a Rails app). I wasn't
[#364596] Is there an environment variable that gives me line number and file? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>
External from the trace stuff that is. I just want the line number and file I'm
[#364618] General Ruby OOP question — "Paul A." <cyril.staff@...>
Hello,
[#364628] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>
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On 6/19/10, Daniel Moore <yahivin@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/21/10, Dave Howell <groups.2009a@grandfenwick.net> wrote:
* Benoit Daloze <eregontp@gmail.com> wrote:
[#364632] QED v2.2.0 released — transfire@...
QED 2.2.0 has been released.
Is that a typo in your work url? protuils? :)
[#364638] Thread Timeout — Francesco Vollero <ravenz@...2.ie>
Hi list,
[#364641] Namespacing a class — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>
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Eric MSP Veith wrote:
Gary Wright wrote:
On 6/22/10, Jテカrg W Mittag <JoergWMittag+Ruby@googlemail.com> wrote:
2010/6/24 Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com>:
2010/6/24 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:
On Jun 24, 11:58m, Robert Klemme <shortcut...@googlemail.com> wrote:
[#364642] General Confusion — Chuck Brotman <brotman@...>
I'm confused! I may have bitten off more than I can chew!
On 20.06.2010 20:20, Chuck Brotman wrote:
[#364667] Ruby Basic — "Raveendran .P" <jazzezravi@...>
Hi All,
[#364703] Got to be a better way to code class variables.... — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>
I'm trying to set up an object with overridable defaults, so it will act like this:
[#364715] script for production server — Florent THOMAS <mailinglist@...>
Hello,
[#364721] Help with Ruby return types and documentation — Tasos Laskos <zapotek@...>
Hi guys,
2010/6/22 Tasos Laskos <zapotek@segfault.gr>:
Robert Klemme wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Tasos Laskos <zapotek@segfault.gr> wrote:
[#364735] print gem VERSION from ruby program — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
jeweler maintains a file VERSION in the base directory.
, note that File.open("../VERSION") fails since
On 2010-06-22 11:38:09 -0700, Roger Pack said:
[#364747] Recommended library for parsing RSS and Atom feeds — Richard Conroy <richard.conroy@...>
Hi,
On Jun 22, 8:09m, Richard Conroy <richard.con...@gmail.com> wrote:
[#364756] SQLite placeholder problem — Yuriy Skobov <yuriyskobov@...>
Hi,
[#364761] Iterate over specific keys in a hash — Safas Khkjh <ryandewhurst@...>
Hi,
[#364784] MD5 Checksum of a String — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>
The script shown in Exhibit A submits a test string to 3 different
[#364786] Finding a project's root directory — Intransition <transfire@...>
As I continue to work project development tools I repeatedly run into
[#364796] marshalled data in 1.9 — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>
Is there the possibility this would fail in 1.9?
On Jun 23, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Roger Pack wrote:
[#364815] Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Danny Challis <dannychallis@...>
Hello everyone,
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Danny Challis <dannychallis@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/6/24 Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Robert Klemme
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:35 AM, botp <botpena@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Michael Fellinger
> http://en.literateprograms.org/Boyer-Moore_string_search_algorithm_%28Java%29
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Michael Fellinger > I've just run
[#364830] Is the CGI instance "html" method no longer available? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>
> undefined method `html' for #<CGI:0xb783f268> (NoMethodError)
[#364842] Liquid tests in ruby 1.9.2 — Miguel Teixeira <miguelfteixeira@...>
Good evening,
[#364850] Happy Intransition Day! — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
Happy Intransition Day!
Intransition wrote:
MINBWAAJ?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Eric Christopherson
[#364861] Singleton class in Ruby — Manoj Kumar <manojs.nitt@...>
Can we see the singleton class as object in ruby.
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Manoj Kumar <manojs.nitt@gmail.com> wrote:
Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n wrote:
[#364875] Highline giving EOFERROR, input stream exhausted — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
I am first taking multiline input from user. User may end input using
On Jun 25, 2010, at 5:36 AM, R.. Kumar wrote:
[#364881] redirecting the end of a pipe — Thomas Secret <martin.gerdes@...>
Following interesting problem:
[#364892] RDazzle v1.3.0 released — transfire@...
= RDazzle
[#364893] $? is always new? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>
Is the following expected?
[#364894] RCR: IO.popen4 — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>
Currently with the std lib there is no (built in) way to get the PID of
[#364905] getting array input from command line — Ted Flethuseo <flethuseo@...>
Hi everyone,
[#364911] DNote v1.4.0 released — transfire@...
DNote 1.4.0 has been released.
[#364928] Ruby's RDocs — Intransition <transfire@...>
Thanks to Josh Cheek I finally went and started the documentation
[#364930] Ruby in JavaScript, all projects are dead? — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>
Hello, recently I've examined some of the projects that trying to bring
Similar but different:
UPD, this one seems to be interesting and is very active. And (a big
[#364937] Convert \uXXXX to character — born in USSR <psixxx@...>
I have string: '\u041f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0435\u0442!' and i need to
[#364938] newbie - WEbrick, config/routes.rb and multiple instances — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Iain Barnett <iainspeed@gmail.com> wrote:
[#364961] how i execute a method variable numer of times — Noose Dinli <unter_noob@...>
hi ruby
[#364967] passing a block to yield — Andy Bogdanov <andy.bogdanov@...>
Hello
[#364968] pretty inspecting objects? — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>
Hello!
[#364988] Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>
I use Net::HTTP to collect some data as a string. I now need to pass
Ryan Davis wrote:
> If it takes only a pathname argument, then you're
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Doug Jolley <ddjolley@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/6/29 Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com>:
Robert Klemme wrote:
On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Brian Candler wrote:
James Edward Gray II wrote:
2010/6/30 Brian Candler <b.candler@pobox.com>:
Robert Klemme wrote:
2010/6/30 Brian Candler <b.candler@pobox.com>:
[#364995] editing text using $EDITOR from program — "R.. Kumar" <sentinel1879@...>
Does Highline or Thor/Facets/ActiveSupport etc have a method for when
[#365007] Multi-cpu and ruby Threading — Regis d'Aubarede <regis.aubarede@...>
Hello,
[#365009] Using RubyGems — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>
What does (find) in require 'find' do?
[#365039] pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — "R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX" <sentinel1879@...>
/opt/local/lib/ruby1.9/1.9.1/pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:11 AM, R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX <sentinel1879@gmail.com
Josh Cheek wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:55 AM, R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX <sentinel1879@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:
[#365052] Best practices resource/guidance for strings — Cs Webgrl <cschaller@...>
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[#365080] AUDIO FILE DOWNLOAD IN RUBY — kevid <alumsimportant@...>
hi all,
require 'net/http'
hi, tanks for your response.
Re: Namespacing a class
2010/6/25 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:
> On Jun 24, 11:58m, Robert Klemme <shortcut...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand what you mean here. an you elaborate or provide an example?
>
>
> # lib/foo/baz.rb
>
> class Foo::Baz
> ..
> end
>
>
> # lib/foo.rb
>
> require 'foo/baz'
>
> class Foo
> ..
> end
I always thought the proper idiom was
# lib/foo.rb
class Foo
...
end
# optionally:
require 'foo/baz'
# lib/foo/baz.rb
require 'foo'
class Foo::Baz
...
end
Alternative:
# lib/foo.rb
class Foo
...
autoload :Baz, 'foo/baz'
end
# lib/foo/baz.rb
(as above)
>> > 2) The developer is forced to choose between two arbitrarily limited
>> > mechanisms for modeling behavior. Classes can only re-used once per
>> > subclass and not at all via modules. Modules can be reused extensively
>> > but do not naturally include their singleton methods. These
>> > limitations lead to a number of code smells from overly limited use of
>> > inheritance to included/ClassMethods hooks.
>>
>> Why is not including their singleton methods a strong limitation?
>
> Well it is strong.
That's a strange answer to my question...
> In fact, if it wasn't for that, the difference be
> almost ephemeral. But strong != good. I know that matz has cited this
> issue in the past, but I have never seen an explanation of why it is
> so bad to get the module singleton methods? Clearly in many cases that
> is exactly what people want, which is why they ClassMethods hack is so
> common.
Let my first try to understand what you mean. If I get you properly you want
module A
def self.wok
puts "I work for the class"
end
def foo
puts "happy instance"
self.class.wok
end
end
class X
include A
end
X.new.foo ->
"happy instance"
"I work for the class"
I personally would write
def foo
puts "happy instance"
A.wok
end
and be done so I suspect you mean something else.
> If it were the other way around, and the singleton methods
> were passed along, but you didn't want them to be... well I would like
> to know under what circumstances that it would really be a problem. If
> those singleton methods were simply being used as functions (M.f) then
> they can easily be placed in a separate module. If they were being
> used as a DSL for the module itself, why would the including class be
> any worse off by gaining the DSL too? aybe there is some reason one
> can find, but even so it seems to me that it must be the rarity.
If I get your drift you want to use a single module to define a DSL
and apply it at the same time, e.g.
module DSL
def self.smart_attribute(sym)
class_eval "def #{sym}; puts 'Look Ma, how smart I am!'; @#{sym}; end"
end
smart_attribute :name
end
and then
class Foo
include DSL
smart_attribute :age
end
f = Foo.new
f.name
f.age
I personally would separate the DSL out into another module because
that is more modular. Not all classes might need smart attribute
"name" so this would be a better choice IMHO.
> In
> all my use of modules I can't think of case where having the singleton
> level would have been a problem and in many, if not most, I actually
> wanted it and had to resort to some hoop jumping.
>
> In fact, and I think this is worth pointing out... I never ever design
> a module to be utilized via #extend. In such usecases I actually do
> this:
>
> odule M
> ef self.append_features(base)
> ase.extend self
> nd
> nd
>
> Of course, rather than fuss about it, we could also have the best of
> both worlds (imagine that). , for one, would be happy with a new
> method to go along with #include and #extend that provided both
> singleton and instance levels.
I believe automatically propagating class methods might cause
confusion because it is not obvious. At least I haven't had the need
for this (which might be due to the different tasks we tackle with
Ruby).
>> > 3) Using tools for conceptually different cases does not require that
>> > their be physically different tools for each case. I wrench is just as
>> > good for tightening a nut as it is for loosening one. If I had to use
>> > two separate tools it would be quite annoying.
>>
>> I believe this is a bad analogy. f at all you would have to take
>> "tightening and loosing nuts" and "hammering". n that case it's
>> quite obvious that you would not normally use the same tool for the
>> job.
>
> Maybe so. But a class is a subclass of module. So they are very
> similar tools, unlike a hammer and a wrench. My point was simply that,
> as craftsman, we'd rather have just one tool, if it can do the job two
> just as well.
>
>> > Following your conceptual distinction argument we could just as easily
>> > argue for separate entities for mixins and namespaces ince those are
>> > also different uses of modules. Clearly no one wants that.
>>
>> Actually I thought about mentioning this because namespacing is yet
>> another concept which happens to have two tools - module and class.
>> It probably feels very natural because all major OO languages do
>> support this. nd it does have some merits.
>>
>> > I have never heard of a solid reason for the division between classes
>> > and modules --my guess is that there is no real reason other than that
>> > it how it was done originally, and changing it now means 1) a major
>> > version bump and 2) an overhaul of the implementation.
>>
>> I find that distinction pretty clear as I have tried to point out
>> earlier. omehow you seem to be using the language quite differently
>> than me and have run into limitations that do not exist for me. aybe
>> we can take the discussion a bit further to find out more about this.
>
> Perhaps b/c I have done a lot of meta-programming? Not sure. It would
> be interesting to know more, I agree.
I believe this points into the right direction. I'm not doing as much
meta programming - probably because I am not involved in creating
frameworks in Ruby. I rather use the language to solve day to day
problems. So far my need for DSL's has been scarce. So where were
you really hurt by not automatically propagating class methods? I
can't think of a case but obviously you have one in mind.
Thanks for the discussion!
Kind regards
robert
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