[#363639] Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...>

A Ruby newbie having trouble getting results back from geonames

16 messages 2010/06/02
[#363641] Re: Parsing geonames — Michael Fellinger <m.fellinger@...> 2010/06/02

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, 12 34 <rubyforum@web.knobby.ws> wrote:

[#363642] Re: Parsing geonames — 12 34 <rubyforum@...> 2010/06/02

Michael Fellinger wrote:

[#363646] installation issue with Ruby gems on Ubuntu 8.04 — Santosh Dvn <santoshdvn@...>

Hi I am installing ruby gems on ubuntu 8.04 .. while installing i got

14 messages 2010/06/02

[#363662] having a class method called only one time ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

I'd like having a class method called only one time ?

12 messages 2010/06/02

[#363756] comparing objects — Anderson Leite <andersonlfl@...>

How can I compare two objects and get true if some of his atributes are

48 messages 2010/06/03
[#364122] Re: comparing objects — Rein Henrichs <reinh@...> 2010/06/10

On 2010-06-10 06:59:40 -0700, Robert Dober said:

[#363764] Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Run Paint Run Run <runrun@...>

I'm writing a free ebook about Ruby 1.9 at http://ruby.runpaint.org/ .

17 messages 2010/06/04
[#363765] Re: Documenting Ruby 1.9: Ebook or Wiki? — Mohit Sindhwani <mo_mail@...> 2010/06/04

On 4/6/2010 11:30 AM, Run Paint Run Run wrote:

[#363775] Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I feel I should start with some pre-emptive apologies. I used to subscribe to this list, but haven't been reading it for a year or so, so I may have missed the answer to my question. (I did try finding it in the list archives, of course.) Also, I'm a little frustrated, and that might adversely influence the tone of this message. I'll try to avoid that, but I beg your forgiveness if I sound a little snide.

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[#363895] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Phrogz <phrogz@...> 2010/06/06

On Jun 4, 3:29m, Dave Howell <groups.20...@grandfenwick.net> wrote:

[#363975] Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/06/07

[#363883] inject method of Array class — RichardSchollar <richardgschollar@...>

I have only just started using Ruby (and am a total noob, in case this

14 messages 2010/06/06

[#363944] Complex numbers contradiction? — Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@...>

This looks correct:

13 messages 2010/06/07
[#363951] Re: Complex numbers contradiction? — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2010/06/07

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Andrew Duncan <andrew.duncan@sonos.com> wrote:

[#364010] Rubyzip - `dup': can't dup NilClass (TypeError) — Luka Stolyarov <lukich@...>

Hello. I've trying to figure out rubyzip. Here's the code I had:

11 messages 2010/06/08

[#364101] Why private #binding? — Intransition <transfire@...>

Why is #binding a private method? I end up doing a lot of this:

13 messages 2010/06/10

[#364268] State of the union for Ruby CLI libraries? — John Feminella <johnf@...>

I am starting construction on a somewhat complicated internal

18 messages 2010/06/13

[#364273] Loading a module without polluting my namespace — Hagbard Celine <sin3141592@...>

Hey folks!

20 messages 2010/06/13

[#364330] shorthand — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

I read this once:

14 messages 2010/06/14

[#364342] Placement of require() and missing symbols — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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[#364365] Re: Placement of require() and missing symbols — Kirk Haines <wyhaines@...> 2010/06/15

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Eric MSP Veith

[#364371] datamapper blues — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

I'm investigating the use of DataMapper to convert an old project with

14 messages 2010/06/15

[#364402] Getting rid of self — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

22 messages 2010/06/16
[#364440] Re: Getting rid of self — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/16

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#364415] Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2010/06/16
[#364439] Re: Android apps using ruby — Andrew Kaspick <akaspick@...> 2010/06/16

Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan wrote:

[#364479] Re: Android apps using ruby — Lakshmanan Muthukrishnan <lakshmanan@...> 2010/06/17

Andrew Kaspick wrote:

[#364496] nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

The Ruby Core forum has no new entry since four days ago.

15 messages 2010/06/17
[#364498] Re: nothing new in ruby_core for four days ? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/17

Michel Demazure wrote:

[#364529] Dear gem: still no zlib. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>

I really really regret ever installing SnowLeopard.

16 messages 2010/06/17

[#364580] String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

When I try for example to compare the following strings in Ruby, I get

13 messages 2010/06/18
[#364584] Re: String comparison. Why does Ruby consider this true? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/18

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Abder-rahman Ali <

[#364628] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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21 messages 2010/06/19
[#364696] Re: [QUIZ] Random Points within a Circle (#234) — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/06/21

On 6/19/10, Daniel Moore <yahivin@gmail.com> wrote:

[#364641] Namespacing a class — Eric MSP Veith <eveith@...>

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18 messages 2010/06/20

[#364815] Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Danny Challis <dannychallis@...>

Hello everyone,

18 messages 2010/06/24
[#364817] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/06/24

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Danny Challis <dannychallis@gmail.com> wrote:

[#364825] Re: Count substrings in string, scan too slow — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/24

2010/6/24 Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:

[#364850] Happy Intransition Day! — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

Happy Intransition Day!

23 messages 2010/06/24

[#364930] Ruby in JavaScript, all projects are dead? — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...>

Hello, recently I've examined some of the projects that trying to bring

18 messages 2010/06/27

[#364988] Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...>

I use Net::HTTP to collect some data as a string. I now need to pass

25 messages 2010/06/29
[#364989] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/06/29

[#364996] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/29

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#365016] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Doug Jolley <ddjolley@...> 2010/06/29

> If it takes only a pathname argument, then you're

[#365024] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/06/29

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Doug Jolley <ddjolley@gmail.com> wrote:

[#365036] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/06/30

2010/6/29 Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com>:

[#365049] Re: Reading String Data as a File — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/06/30

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#365039] pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — "R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX" <sentinel1879@...>

/opt/local/lib/ruby1.9/1.9.1/pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted

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[#365048] Re: pathname.rb:270: warning: `*' interpreted as argument prefix — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/06/30

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:11 AM, R.. Kumar 1.9.1 OSX <sentinel1879@gmail.com

Re: Looking for ORM for 'legacy' database.

From: Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...>
Date: 2010-06-10 02:48:46 UTC
List: ruby-talk #364098
On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:11 , Brian Candler wrote:
> Aside: Rails (or ActiveRecord) expects that the primary key is called 
> "id".

Yea, but I'd already rejected that convention. 

create table Horses (
	horse_id primary-key-thing,
	ranch_id foreign-key-thing
	...
);

create table Ranches (
	ranch_id primary-key-thing,
	...
);

create table HiredHands (
	hiredhand_id primary-key-thing,
	ranch_id primary-key-thing,
	...
);
	
select * from Horses join Ranches using (ranch_id) join HiredHands using (ranch_id);

	as opposed to 

select * from Horses join Ranches on (Ranch.id = ranch_id) join HiredHands on (Ranch.id = ranch_id);

An ORM that makes the Ruby code cleaner by making the SQL code worse is not my friend. I do a LOT of my work directly in SQL.

> Now, I've written applications which connect ActiveRecord to an existing 
> legacy database which doesn't respect Rails conventions, and they work 
> fine. 

Oh, I never doubted it that it could be done. My problem was that the overwhelming percentage of available documentation assumes that I *won't* be doing it that way, so that I couldn't find the information I needed to make it work. 

> So I'd say:
> * design and build your database how you want
> * connect ActiveRecord to it as above
> * watch it work
> * if you really get stuck, then look at other ORMs (but I can't vouch 
> how well they will work with the rest of Rails, at least before Rails 3)

Um, but I hadn't planned on using Rails at all. 

After setting up my models in Sequel, I started looking at frameworks. Padrino was the frontrunner, but it kept doing what Rails had done to me, just not as hard. The online tutorial included a feature that wasn't yet part of the version installed by rubygems (the -a switch), the 'bundle install' command that I was told to invoke without much explanation put some presumed-necessary gems in ~/.bundle/blahblahblah without telling me (and when I deploy it to the production server, there won't BE any home directory, so throwing crap in my home folder isn't satisfactory, especially if you don't tell me you're doing it), the 'admin' sub-app (I still have no idea what it does, I only know that the tutorial thought I'd be happier if I installed it) apparently took schema-write-access for granted and tried to create an 'accounts' table, and when "padrino rake seed" (and again, I still don't know what that command was supposed to actually do for me) failed with a cryptic database-related error, nobody in the #padrino IRC channel could help me resolve it. 

That's more or less the kind of experience I had when I installed Rails and started trying to evaluate it, except that I threw a personal "Unable to find solution in current documentation space" error after two hours on Padrino, whereas it was about eight hours before I gave up on Rails. 

So then I moved to Ramaze. Two hours of *that,* and I had a browser window full of data from my database. 

Winner: Ramaze. 


That just left selecting a templating engine. I figured I should be able to find at least a couple that would vastly exceed the templating functions I was used to from Tango, the DB-to-Web tool that I bought and loved back in 1997. 

I guess 'lightweight' is just too popular an adjective, though, because so far, I haven't even found anybody *claiming* to do what it could do, never mind living up to such claims. I did find a "paginator" hiding in Ramaze as a 'helper' (not in the templater, where I'd expected to find it, but that's probably my own error), but it's still going to need a lot of customizing to do what I'm looking for. 

Most of the templating tools out there are variations on a theme by ERB, which is pretty much the same as what I had with .idc/.htx files in IIS 2.0(?) running on Window NT 4.0 back in 1996. Except for haml. 

I haven't gotten to actually using Haml yet, but it took me about 30 seconds to fall in love with it. Barring catastrophic incompatibilities with Sequel &/or Ramaze (which seems highly improbable), I'm done evaluating, and have finally moved on to developing. 





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