[#63439] Re: Local variables & blocks — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>

> >>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

22 messages 2003/02/01
[#63482] Re: Local variables & blocks — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> writes:

[#63485] Re: Local variables & blocks — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/02

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:30:12AM +0100, ts wrote:

[#63486] Re: Local variables & blocks — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> writes:

[#63491] Re: Local variables & blocks — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/02

> Y> I'm afraid I won't give you a way to turn it off. It is "quite

[#63492] Re: Local variables & blocks — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> writes:

[#63495] Re: Local variables & blocks — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/02

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:36:52PM +0100, ts wrote:

[#63496] Re: Local variables & blocks — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/02

>>>>> "B" == Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> writes:

[#63479] no override — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

is there any way to specifiy that a method can not be overrided? perfereably

20 messages 2003/02/02
[#63483] Re: no override — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/02/02

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 04:51:08PM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#63487] Re: no override — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/02/02

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 06:41:45PM +0900, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#63500] Re: no override — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/02

On Sunday 02 February 2003 03:34 am, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#63517] Re: no override — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/02/02

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:35:26PM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#63527] Re: no override — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/02

On Sunday 02 February 2003 09:01 am, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#63553] What is the best Ruby IDE you think? — Nicolay Vasiliev <n.vasiliev@...>

Hello!

14 messages 2003/02/03

[#63600] ruby-dev summary 19437-19455 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2003/02/03

[#63751] Embedding Ruby in C code — Szymon Drejewicz <drejewic@...>

How to compile this file:

24 messages 2003/02/05

[#63782] Error in Complex — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2003/02/05

[#63829] locana, SVG, cross-platform GUI meanderings... — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

Hold on, this post takes a few twists and turns. Consider it an exercise

41 messages 2003/02/06
[#63832] Re: locana, SVG, cross-platform GUI meanderings... — Holden Glova <dsafari@...> 2003/02/06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[#63859] Re: locana, SVG, cross-platform GUI meanderings... — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2003/02/06

[#63862] Blogging software — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Anyone done any work on a ruby-powered weblog?

15 messages 2003/02/06

[#63906] The way of the Gentoo — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@...>

22 messages 2003/02/06

[#63938] Private lvalue methods unusable? — Steven Smolinski <steven.smolinski@...>

I'm learning Ruby, and trying to grasp the non-declarative concept with

14 messages 2003/02/06

[#64018] easy access for CGI query — Wakou Aoyama <wakou@...>

hello,

14 messages 2003/02/07

[#64063] Tortured by the Dependency Daemons — Jonathan Smith <jonathan.w.smith@...>

The instructions for installation state, "In RWiki package for your

16 messages 2003/02/08

[#64068] Relative performance of Ruby templating systems — "Gabriel Emerson" <egabriel@...>

I decided to run Siege against Mod Ruby, ERuby, Amrita, PageTemplate,

11 messages 2003/02/08

[#64146] ruby-dev summary 19457-19539 — Kazuo Saito <ksaito@...>

10 messages 2003/02/09
[#64151] Operator reordering, good idea? (was Re: ruby-dev summary 19457-19539) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2003/02/09

Hi, I'm just a beginner buy program, but...

[#64164] Trapping Access/Modification of Objects — Jason Voegele <jason@...>

After a long delay, I'm now starting to work on the RubyGOODS library

13 messages 2003/02/09

[#64242] Source code for "Ruby Developer's Guide" — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>

Hi People,

15 messages 2003/02/10

[#64247] turning modules into classes — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>

Did you ever want to instantiate a module?

28 messages 2003/02/10
[#64251] Re: turning modules into classes — dblack@... 2003/02/10

Hi --

[#64278] inheriting from base classes — dblack@...

Hi --

37 messages 2003/02/11

[#64329] Range#length? — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>

What happened to Range#length and Range#size?

39 messages 2003/02/11

[#64392] String frustration — "Tim Kynerd" <tim@...>

Hi everyone,

23 messages 2003/02/11

[#64421] Name for #=== based assertion — <nathaniel@...>

I've had several requests that an assertion based on #=== be added to

16 messages 2003/02/12

[#64470] Need regex help (or bug in match) — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

Hi

17 messages 2003/02/12
[#64471] Re: Need regex help (or bug in match) — dblack@... 2003/02/12

Hi --

[#64549] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2003/02/12

----- Original Message -----

[#64524] mod_ruby insecury op — Daniel Bretoi <lists@...>

[Wed Feb 12 12:00:16 2003] [error] mod_ruby: error in ruby

15 messages 2003/02/12

[#64527] Windows support — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2003/02/12

[#64528] hm,... arr[1]["name"] — "daniel" <offstuff@...>

$arr = Array();

16 messages 2003/02/12

[#64575] Re: Lexical scope and closures — patrickdlogan@...

> (3) some other syntax will be introduced for cases where...

53 messages 2003/02/12
[#64647] Re: Lexical scope and closures — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/02/13

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:35:34AM +0900, patrickdlogan@attbi.com wrote:

[#64670] Re: Lexical scope and closures — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/13

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 05:44:36PM +0900, Mauricio Fern?ndez wrote:

[#64678] Re: Lexical scope and closures — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/13

On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:54 am, Brian Candler wrote:

[#64750] Re: Lexical scope and closures — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/14

Hi,

[#64751] Re: Lexical scope and closures — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/14

On Thursday 13 February 2003 06:44 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#64755] Re: Lexical scope and closures — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/14

Hi,

[#64756] Re: Lexical scope and closures — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/14

On Thursday 13 February 2003 07:42 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#64855] Re: Lexical scope and closures — "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@...> 2003/02/15

Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:06:31 +0900, Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@yahoo.com> pisze:

[#64920] Re: Lexical scope and closures — dblack@... 2003/02/16

Hi --

[#64602] von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — <jbritt@...>

Since this is something of a permathread on this list I though this would be of interest:

33 messages 2003/02/13
[#64606] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — Ryan Pavlik <rpav@...> 2003/02/13

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:10:44 +0900

[#64778] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@...> 2003/02/14

Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:15:42 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> pisze:

[#64789] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/02/14

On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:27:10PM +0900, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:

[#64793] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/02/14

Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

[#64804] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/02/14

On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 01:05:19AM +0900, Matt Armstrong wrote:

[#64811] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — Dan Sugalski <dan@...> 2003/02/14

At 4:18 AM +0900 2/15/03, Paul Brannan wrote:

[#64626] Why does Array#compact! return the array, but uniq! return a count? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

11 messages 2003/02/13

[#64752] why html template systems never use new tags? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

curious, i've realized that i have never seen any html template systems that

16 messages 2003/02/14

[#64753] module This::Encompassing::That — Bil Kleb <W.L.Kleb@...>

Today, I decided I was tired of

45 messages 2003/02/14
[#64754] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — dblack@... 2003/02/14

Hi --

[#64757] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — Bil Kleb <W.L.Kleb@...> 2003/02/14

dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#64850] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/02/15

On Friday, February 14, 2003, 2:00:56 PM, Bil wrote:

[#64859] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — dblack@... 2003/02/15

Hi --

[#64883] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/02/15

On Sunday, February 16, 2003, 4:01:47 AM, dblack wrote:

[#64986] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/17

Hi,

[#64987] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/17

>>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#64988] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/17

Hi,

[#64990] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/17

>>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#65046] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/17

Hi,

[#65078] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/18

>>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#65085] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/18

Hi,

[#65137] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/02/18

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 11:56:41 PM, Yukihiro wrote:

[#65151] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#65160] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#65178] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#65211] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — <nathaniel@...> 2003/02/19

Yukihiro Matsumoto [mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org] wrote:

[#65225] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#65230] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — dblack@... 2003/02/19

Hi --

[#65235] Re: module This::Encompassing::That — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#64785] Segmation fault in combination of heavy socket I/O and multi-threading — Idan Sofer <idan@...>

This is one bug(Or perhaps even a set of bugs) I ran into more then once

10 messages 2003/02/14
[#65118] Re: [BUG] Segmation fault in combination of heavy socket I/O and multi-threading — ts <decoux@...> 2003/02/18

>>>>> "I" == Idan Sofer <idan@idanso.dyndns.org> writes:

[#65001] How to test for existence of instance variable? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>

I have an existing class Foo, and existing objects of that class.

42 messages 2003/02/17
[#65017] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2003/02/17

Hi,

[#65081] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/18

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:46:59AM -0800, Bill Kelly wrote:

[#65084] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/18

Hi,

[#65110] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/02/18

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 09:52:12PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#65112] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/18

Hi,

[#65125] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/02/18

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:08:07AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#65179] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/19

Hi,

[#65196] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/19

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:19:15AM +0900, Paul Brannan wrote:

[#65201] Re: How to test for existence of instance variable? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/02/19

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:02:21AM +0900, Brian Candler wrote:

[#65090] $SAFE and creating New objects (File) — "\"RayZ\" Andrew V Rumm" <rayz@...>

Sorry for noob question

16 messages 2003/02/18

[#65141] String#+ operatorbroken? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

Hi:

17 messages 2003/02/19

[#65159] Sourcing files — Bjn Lindstr <bkhl@...>

I like using source files as configuration files for my hacks.

13 messages 2003/02/19

[#65167] Ruby scripts for daily unix system administration — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets@...>

Hi, I'm a newbie looking for any example of writing ruby script to do my

22 messages 2003/02/19

[#65212] Rite Status? — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>

Hello all - I was just wondering if Rite is still in development and if it's

16 messages 2003/02/19

[#65270] optimization question — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>

Hello - A friend and I have been working on a Ruby implementation of a

39 messages 2003/02/19

[#65292] Curses base windowing system — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets@...>

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU

17 messages 2003/02/20

[#65331] Return Values of [] for Array, Hash,... (ruby 1.6.8) — Michael Bruschkewitz <brusch2@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2003/02/20

[#65351] proc {} vs. Method#to_proc — dblack@...

Hi --

22 messages 2003/02/20

[#65424] Regexp help: Parsing a CSV file — Tim Bates <tim@...>

I've dumped a CSV (comma separated values) file from Excel, and I want to

27 messages 2003/02/21

[#65454] xml-configfile 0.8.0 — Maik Schmidt <contact@...>

Yo!

14 messages 2003/02/21

[#65473] Style question: using 'block_given?' — Bill Dueber <wdueber@...>

I'm new to Ruby, and want to know what The Best Way To Do It is...

21 messages 2003/02/21
[#65485] Re: Style question: using 'block_given?' — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/21

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:00:44AM +0900, Bill Dueber wrote:

[#65494] Re: Style question: using 'block_given?' — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/02/21

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 06:05:23AM +0900, Brian Candler wrote:

[#65498] Re: Style question: using 'block_given?' — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/21

> This is the class instance variable police. Freeze! Keine Bewegung!

[#65511] Re: Style question: using 'block_given?' — dblack@... 2003/02/22

Hi --

[#65514] Re: Style question: using 'block_given?' — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/22

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 04:05:59PM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#65526] embedded docs — Wojciech Kaczmarek <schatten@...>

Is ruby going to have (in a reasonably predictable future :) embedded

50 messages 2003/02/22
[#65567] Re: embedded docs — Simon Cozens <simon@...> 2003/02/23

Brian Wisti <brian@coolnamehere.com> writes:

[#65572] Re: embedded docs — Piers Harding <piers@...> 2003/02/23

[#65573] Re: embedded docs — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/02/23

I agree that this is very important.

[#65576] Internationalization (Re: embedded docs) — Brian Wisti <brian@...> 2003/02/23

On Sunday 23 February 2003 09:18 am, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:

[#65577] Re: Internationalization (Re: embedded docs) — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/02/23

On Sunday 23 February 2003 10:53 am, Brian Wisti wrote:

[#65601] ANN: REXML 2.5.7 and 2.4.7 — ser@... (Sean Russell)

Two, two, TWO releases for the price of one!

13 messages 2003/02/24

[#65619] Coding challenge: Space-separated constants — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I'm issuing this challenge because I'm

12 messages 2003/02/24

[#65632] Happy Birthday, Ruby, and an announcement.... — dblack@...

Dear everyone,

18 messages 2003/02/24

[#65644] Debugger Not Working — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...>

All,

26 messages 2003/02/24
[#65779] Re: Debugger Not Working — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2003/02/26

Hi, Seth,

[#65784] Re: Debugger Not Working — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/02/26

It is working now with line numbers. What is the syntax for breaking at a

[#65786] Re: Debugger Not Working — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2003/02/26

Hi, Seth,

[#65790] Re: Debugger Not Working — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/02/26

It may, I'll try it, but it really doesn't do much good even if it does work.

[#65791] Re: Debugger Not Working — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2003/02/26

Hi, Seth,

[#65660] Objectify the mersenne twister in 1.8? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2003/02/24

[#65802] Ruby in Performance Testing — E F van de Laar <emiel@...>

Rubyists,

18 messages 2003/02/26

[#65835] Re: von Rossum on Strong vs. Weak Typing — "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@...>

Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:10:44 +0900, <jbritt@ruby-doc.org> <jbritt@ruby-doc.org> pisze:

12 messages 2003/02/26

[#65854] Ruby Compile-time optimization — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello,

52 messages 2003/02/27

[#65884] Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...>

I have not been able to change the behavior of IO::read() to non-blocking.

27 messages 2003/02/27
[#65920] Re: Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/27

Hi,

[#65937] Re: Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/02/27

This is with 1.8 CVS head on linux kernel 2.4.20.

[#66126] Re: Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — nobu.nokada@... 2003/03/02

Hi,

[#66146] Re: Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — Seth Kurtzberg <seth@...> 2003/03/02

I guess I must be missing something, but I see nothing here that would expose

[#66149] Re: Unable to do non-blocking read on socket — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/03/02

Hi,

[#65907] XmlConfigFile usage — Ollivier Robert <roberto@...>

Hello,

31 messages 2003/02/27
[#65943] Re: XmlConfigFile usage — "Chris Morris" <chrismo@...> 2003/02/27

> I underestimated the need for true XML serialization and I think it's

[#65945] Re: XmlConfigFile usage — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2003/02/27

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:53:47AM +0900, Chris Morris wrote:

[#65991] I'm stuck — Friedrich Dominicus <frido@...>

Well my problem sounds IMHO trivial.

31 messages 2003/02/28

FAQ for comp.lang.ruby

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2003-02-10 21:15:15 UTC
List: ruby-talk #64241
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2003-1-7)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading the text version via 
the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on the web 
at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html


Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more 
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en (Ruby English language home page.)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and lots
            of other interesting information.  
    
    Ruby's other major on-line documentation and links site:
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com  
        (Nov 2002: Currently having DNS problems!)

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/

    Ruby Reference Manual:

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html

    Ruby classes, modules, and methods reference:

        http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        Internet version: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
        Errata: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata.html

    Forthcoming English language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        The Ruby Developer's Handbook
        Robert Calco, Rich Kilmer, Dana Moore
        Sams Publishing, ISBN: ??? (2002)

        CANCELED, MARCH 2002 (for reasons unknown):
        The Ruby Programming Language
        by Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto and Keiju Ishitsuka 
        Addison Wesley Professional; ISBN: 020171096X (June, 2002)

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausfrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
        Translation of the Thomas/Hunt book (Programming Ruby,
        aka the Pickaxe Book) 
        Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 382731965X (2002)

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby.

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  :-)

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.  :-)  When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

        (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:

                mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org

            This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
            You can browse the database at:

                http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.org URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.org/12345 will refer
    to message 12345.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was produced by Conrad Schneiker (schneiker@jump.net).
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  :-)


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