[#60304] FreeRIDE hangs when I use gets — sothoth@... (Yog-Sothoth)

Hi there, and happy new year!

23 messages 2003/01/01
[#60305] Ruby DBI — David King Landrith <dave@...> 2003/01/01

Is there any way to retrieve the table and database associated with

[#60306] Re: Ruby DBI — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/01

On Wednesday 01 January 2003 07:03 am, David King Landrith wrote:

[#60309] Re: Ruby DBI — David Landrith <dlandrith@...> 2003/01/01

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60378] Interfaces in Ruby — "Robert" <bob.news@...>

15 messages 2003/01/02

[#60541] testunit 0.1.6 problems — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

ruby 1.6.7, 1.6.8, 1.7.3

39 messages 2003/01/04
[#60556] Re: testunit 0.1.6 problems — <nathaniel@...> 2003/01/04

Daniel Berger [mailto:djberg96@yahoo.com] wrote:

[#60579] Re: testunit 0.1.6 problems — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/04

On Sunday, January 5, 2003, 2:46:04 AM, nathaniel wrote:

[#60914] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — <nathaniel@...> 2003/01/08

Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] wrote:

[#60947] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/09

On Thursday, January 9, 2003, 6:56:44 AM, nathaniel wrote:

[#60959] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/01/09

> In my mind, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with an empty unit test.

[#60604] Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages" — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)

Hello,

21 messages 2003/01/05
[#60652] Re: Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages" — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/06

I noticed several replies which said that they could not do this - I

[#60620] bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...>

Hi everibody,

31 messages 2003/01/05
[#60985] Re: bad interpreter — mkcon@... (Martin Kahlert) 2003/01/09

In article <20030105144216.GA2879@gull.zena.it>,

[#61045] Re: bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...> 2003/01/09

* Martin Kahlert <mkcon@gmx.de> [gioved09 gennaio 2003, alle 16:36]:

[#61046] Re: bad interpreter — dblack@... 2003/01/09

Hi --

[#61052] Re: bad interpreter — Stoyan Zhekov <zhware@...> 2003/01/09

> > masarn1@gull:~/Ruby$ ./test.rb 2> error.log

[#61183] Re: bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...> 2003/01/11

* Stoyan Zhekov <zhware@hotpop.com> [venerd10 gennaio 2003, alle 08:55]:

[#60636] Compile time constant folding? — Dan Sugalski <dan@...>

Here's a quick question, now that parrot's close to getting object

19 messages 2003/01/05

[#60650] attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

another addition to tomslib/rubylib:

16 messages 2003/01/06
[#60657] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, 6 January 2003 at 10:30:54 +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60665] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, January 6, 2003, 1:20:06 PM, Jim wrote:

[#60691] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/06

On Sunday 05 January 2003 09:30 pm, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#60702] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, January 6, 2003, 7:48:18 PM, Tom wrote:

[#60766] Re: A very humour game — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Should a rule be set up that disallows messages (or attachments) of

13 messages 2003/01/07

[#60786] Re: attachment:ot -was RE: A very humour game — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

12 messages 2003/01/07

[#60877] Can you detect if a method takes a block argument? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

Hi all, hope everybody had a great new year - it is snowing outside for

16 messages 2003/01/08

[#60910] Ruby advocacy in sigs — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>

I've started using the following as a sig on leoville.com, a very large

51 messages 2003/01/08
[#61644] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Gennady" <gfb@...> 2003/01/15

>

[#61645] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/15

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Gennady wrote:

[#61662] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Park Heesob" <phasis@...> 2003/01/16

Hi,

[#61664] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — dblack@... 2003/01/16

Hi --

[#61667] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2003/01/16

----- Original Message -----

[#61678] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/16

"More powerful than Perl, more object-oriented than Python."

[#61684] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...> 2003/01/16

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60926] The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft) — Lyle Johnson <lyle@...>

All,

44 messages 2003/01/08
[#60928] Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/08

so who are we?

[#60943] Rubyists (Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft)) — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/09

Hi,

[#60965] Re: Rubyists (Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft)) — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/09

On Thursday, 9 January 2003 at 9:18:00 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#60944] OT: apple x11 — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>

just in case anyone missed the word on the wire, apple has released its

24 messages 2003/01/09

[#61002] @@'s are not inherited? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

please correct me if i'm wrong but i beleive i just discovered something i did

12 messages 2003/01/09

[#61098] Using Observer pattern in client/server architecture - how? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

Hi everyone,

10 messages 2003/01/10

[#61144] Why Fox — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Could someone explain to me why Ruby is adopting Fox as its standard GUI?

24 messages 2003/01/10

[#61167] 'require' search path — Tim Bates <tim@...>

I wish 'require' would count the current directory as the directory the file

16 messages 2003/01/11

[#61220] Ruby: politics & performance [long] — Louis Krupp <lkrupp@...>

The problem: Read a structured file (the details are irrelevant)

26 messages 2003/01/11

[#61271] sorting with the Swartzian transform — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello all,

14 messages 2003/01/12

[#61349] OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

33 messages 2003/01/13
[#62019] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2003/01/19

Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:

[#62046] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Dmitri Colebatch <dim@...> 2003/01/20

> Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:

[#62048] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/20

On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:21 pm, Dmitri Colebatch wrote:

[#62049] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Dmitri Colebatch <dim@...> 2003/01/20

Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#62060] Re: persistence (was: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards) — Anders Bengtsson <ndrsbngtssn@...> 2003/01/20

--- Dmitri Colebatch <dim@colebatch.com> wrote:

[#62122] Re: persistence (was: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/21

On Monday 20 January 2003 04:58 am, Anders Bengtsson wrote:

[#61351] UML tool for Linux? — Tim Bates <tim@...>

Does anyone know of a good OO modelling (UML?) tool for Linux, that works well

23 messages 2003/01/13

[#61435] Yet Another Test First Example ... in Ruby — Jim Weirich <jweirich@...>

Our local XP group did a Test-Driven Design clinic. Although most of

13 messages 2003/01/14

[#61497] ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Kazuo Saito <ksaito@...>

49 messages 2003/01/14
[#61499] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/01/14

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:31:22AM +0900, Kazuo Saito wrote:

[#61534] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/14

Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

[#61565] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/15

Hi,

[#61566] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/15

matz@ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:

[#61571] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/15

On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:17:11 PM, Matt wrote:

[#61574] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/15

Hi,

[#61512] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/14

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 10:31 am, Kazuo Saito wrote:

[#61665] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/16

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 12:40 pm, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#61653] Quick question for Japanese speaker — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I've created a graphic based on the Kanji

12 messages 2003/01/15

[#61682] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

13 messages 2003/01/16

[#61749] Linux Editor — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)

What's your favorite ruby editor on linux?

22 messages 2003/01/16

[#61757] quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

quick quest: anyone know of a nice slick short and sweet way to do this:

38 messages 2003/01/17
[#61797] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — "Bulat Ziganshin" <bulatz@...> 2003/01/17

Hello Tom,

[#61842] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/17

On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:25 pm, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

[#61846] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — "Bulat Ziganshin" <bulatz@...> 2003/01/17

Hello Tom,

[#61848] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/17

On Friday 17 January 2003 07:08 am, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

[#61854] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/17

On Saturday, January 18, 2003, 1:22:09 AM, Tom wrote:

[#61855] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — dblack@... 2003/01/17

Hi --

[#61864] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/17

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#61872] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — dblack@... 2003/01/17

Hi --

[#61896] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/17

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#61759] most popular unix scripting language — dorli@... (dambalaMaster)

does anyone know which is the most popular unix scripting language?

26 messages 2003/01/17

[#61810] Automating Perl -> Ruby translation? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Has anyone given any thought to this

22 messages 2003/01/17
[#61875] Re: Automating Perl -> Ruby translation? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/17

In article <034a01c2be07$95670380$0300a8c0@austin.rr.com>,

[#61901] Resolution to CGI API problem? — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>

There is a very long thread [ruby-talk:39898] that talks about changes

11 messages 2003/01/17

[#61965] PickAxe index? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Does PickAxe online have an index?

14 messages 2003/01/18

[#62063] a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>

i want to have a class that can support multiple sets of methods, based

16 messages 2003/01/20
[#62090] Re: a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces — dblack@... 2003/01/20

Hi --

[#62268] extend (Re: a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces) — David Garamond <davegaramond@...> 2003/01/22

dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#62093] Local variable scope — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I'm a bit confused by the scope of local variables.

24 messages 2003/01/20

[#62203] accessors for module instance vars — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I've got a module that that has several classes defined within it. These

17 messages 2003/01/21
[#62250] Re: accessors for module instance vars — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/22

In article <Pine.LNX.4.33.0301212020500.6373-100000@eli.fsl.noaa.gov>,

[#62213] Newbie Q: do i need PStore for this or something else ? — "Vandemoortele Simon" <delirious_nospamplz@...>

_Background info:_

17 messages 2003/01/21

[#62319] Re: exit status, stderr and stdout — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>

> -----Original Message-----

14 messages 2003/01/22

[#62321] Definition: iterator — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I sort of know what an iterator is, but not well enough to explain it.

18 messages 2003/01/22

[#62340] mod_ruby: what's persistent and what's shared? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

i'm tired of being confused about this and i'm hoping someone can clear this

21 messages 2003/01/23

[#62344] Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@...

Hi --

136 messages 2003/01/23
[#62349] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Simon Cozens <simon@...> 2003/01/23

dblack@candle.superlink.net writes:

[#62358] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62645] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@...> 2003/01/25

[#62648] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/25

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, MikkelFJ wrote:

[#62658] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Mark Wilson <mwilson13@...> 2003/01/25

The following is my initial, and not yet complete, proposal on

[#62696] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Iain 'Spoon' Truskett" <spoon@...> 2003/01/26

* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 09:44]:

[#62699] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Mark Wilson <mwilson13@...> 2003/01/26

[#62705] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Iain 'Spoon' Truskett" <spoon@...> 2003/01/26

* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 17:26]:

[#62725] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2003/01/26

Iain 'Spoon' Truskett wrote:

[#62733] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/26

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#62731] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/01/26

[#62738] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2003/01/26

Mike Campbell wrote:

[#62750] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/26

I certainly think that RAA should have a search feature.

[#62808] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2003/01/27

Hi, all,

[#62369] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Simon Cozens <simon@...> 2003/01/23

Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@math.umd.edu> writes:

[#62373] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62381] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

want to here a crazy idea?

[#62545] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Warren Brian Noronha <warren@...> 2003/01/24

dear devels

[#62345] Hash#+ ? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I think that there should be a Hash#+ method, aking to Array#+.

22 messages 2003/01/23
[#62347] Re: Hash#+ ? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62350] Re: Hash#+ ? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:52 pm, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#62351] Re: Hash#+ ? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/23

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 11:14:08AM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#62376] Re: Hash#+ ? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:20 pm, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#62378] Re: Hash#+ ? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/23

Hi,

[#62383] Missing libraries?? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I'm starting a new thread to get away from

22 messages 2003/01/23

[#62665] RAA proposal — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello all,

20 messages 2003/01/26
[#62667] Re: RAA proposal — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/26

On Sunday, 26 January 2003 at 10:48:02 +0900, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#62669] Re: RAA proposal — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/26

On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:57:28AM +0900, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#62708] solaris porting problem -- flock failure? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

Any solaris gurus out there?

27 messages 2003/01/26

[#62730] cascading configuration variables — Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@...>

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13 messages 2003/01/26

[#62767] common regular expressions — Michael Garriss <mgarriss@...>

Sorry if this a stupid question but I am new to ruby AND regular

17 messages 2003/01/26

[#62836] Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>

28 messages 2003/01/27
[#62845] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Michael Garriss <mgarriss@...> 2003/01/27

IMHO, it would be nice if they were run in the order they were defined.

[#62852] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/27

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Michael Garriss wrote:

[#62855] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Chad Fowler <chad@...> 2003/01/27

[#62861] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/27

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Chad Fowler wrote:

[#62867] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/27

ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:

[#62899] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — "Warren Brown" <wkb@...> 2003/01/28

> To implement this, I would suggest renaming all your test_XXX methods

[#62847] tkgnuplot problem: fork() on win — Ralf <lausianne@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2003/01/27
[#62936] Re: tkgnuplot problem: fork() on win (popen3 for windows?) — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/28

In article <20030128122113W.nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp>,

[#62890] ruby-dev summary 19380-19436 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>

Hello all,

14 messages 2003/01/27

[#63065] Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...>

108 messages 2003/01/29
[#63203] Re: Local variables & blocks — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2003/01/30

ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> wrote:

[#63211] Re: Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/30

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Martin DeMello wrote:

[#63558] Re: Local variables & blocks — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2003/02/03

[#63560] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63072] Re: Local variables & blocks — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/29

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 5:04:51 PM, ahoward wrote:

[#63075] Re: Local variables & blocks — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/29

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 6:17:44 PM, Gavin wrote:

[#63087] Re: Local variables & blocks — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/01/29

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:40:21PM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#63100] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/29

Hi,

[#63103] Re: Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/29

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#63119] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/29

Hi,

[#63094] Ruby Books -- A Question — Mark Probert <probertm@..._acm.org>

Rubyists,

15 messages 2003/01/29

[#63198] reading past a file header — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Looking for a more idiomatic way to do this:

12 messages 2003/01/30

[#63216] Newbie question — n.vasiliev@... (Nicolay Vasiliev)

Hello!

17 messages 2003/01/30

[#63284] Return values from assertions — <nathaniel@...>

Eivind Eklund and I have been discussing whether assertions ought to

12 messages 2003/01/31

[#63305] %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

this is a general request for opinion/support. i, for one, would very much

40 messages 2003/01/31
[#63556] Re: %L, %l revisited — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63566] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/03

On Monday 03 February 2003 01:26 am, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:

[#63592] Re: %L, %l revisited — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63773] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/05

Nobu,

[#63777] Re: %L, %l revisited — dblack@... 2003/02/05

Hi --

[#63784] Re: %L, %l revisited — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2003/02/05

----- Original Message -----

[#63799] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/05

On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:44 pm, Hal E. Fulton wrote:

FAQ for comp.lang.ruby

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2003-01-10 21:15:15 UTC
List: ruby-talk #61126
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2003-1-7)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading the text version via 
the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on the web 
at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html


Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more 
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en (Ruby English language home page.)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and lots
            of other interesting information.  
    
    Ruby's other major on-line documentation and links site:
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com  
        (Nov 2002: Currently having DNS problems!)

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/

    Ruby Reference Manual:

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html

    Ruby classes, modules, and methods reference:

        http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        Internet version: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
        Errata: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata.html

    Forthcoming English language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        The Ruby Developer's Handbook
        Robert Calco, Rich Kilmer, Dana Moore
        Sams Publishing, ISBN: ??? (2002)

        CANCELED, MARCH 2002 (for reasons unknown):
        The Ruby Programming Language
        by Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto and Keiju Ishitsuka 
        Addison Wesley Professional; ISBN: 020171096X (June, 2002)

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausfrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
        Translation of the Thomas/Hunt book (Programming Ruby,
        aka the Pickaxe Book) 
        Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 382731965X (2002)

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby.

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  :-)

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.  :-)  When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

        (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:

                mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org

            This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
            You can browse the database at:

                http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.org URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.org/12345 will refer
    to message 12345.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was produced by Conrad Schneiker (schneiker@jump.net).
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  :-)


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