[#52047] ruby-talk separation, part II — " JamesBritt" <james@...>
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Hello --
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:03:44PM +0900, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
FreeBSD's got a decent setup. Few additions to the list here:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 04:29:33AM +0900, Sean Chittenden wrote:
As I ponder over the list of topics below, I wonder if people would be
> > > >ZenTest and ZenWeb were just released. I announced these to
> > If somebody has a new class or library, then they should add it to
> > > If somebody has a new class or library, then they should add it to
[#52094] OO Perl -> Ruby — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I'm wrapping a C library for a Binary Decision Diagram package using swig.
[#52142] current method — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
Is there a way to programmatically determine the name of the method that is
you could do something like this:
[#52184] How do I invoke a block procedure from within a C extension? — philip.bacon@... (Philip Bacon)
I am writing a C extension and wish to call a block from within one of
[#52219] Targeting Borland's compiler on Windows — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
All,
[#52245] Compiling stuff under Windows: list of problems — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
I don't want my tortuous experience of trying to get things working under this
[#52259] bugs — "Kontra, Gergely" <kgergely@...>
Hi!
Hi,
>> >> k='Hello'
[#52262] Tcl implemented in hardware? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
This is a rather strange item. I was checking out comp.arch.fpga
[#52278] Printing the Contents of a 2d Array — rotfeast68@... (Rotfeast)
At the risk of sounding like a nuby to ruby...
[#52290] Regexp: Stripping out all except ASCII? — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#52300] Can soneone tell me what I'm doing wrong... — Jeremy Gregorio <gunvalk@...>
I'm trying to write a little script to rename my mp3s I started with this:
Hi Jeremy,
[#52349] Please help, question regarding threads — Andrew Cowan <icculus@...>
Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
[#52358] Reusing base classes tests? — coma_killen@...
Hi,
[#52364] mod_ruby and postgresql — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>
I did a quick search on the ruby-talk archive, but to no avail, so here's my
[#52380] Confusion on Keywords — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>
Hi,
[#52391] CRuby (Was: R) — Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola@...>
CRuby = subset of Ruby + typed methods + compiler to C
Nikodemus Siivola wrote:
Michael Campbell wrote:
Hi --
[#52411] Violation of Principle of Least Surprise — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
I'm writing this to report a bug as related to Ruby's principle of
[#52436] Specifying local and external block parameters (that old chestnut) — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
I've cannibalised discussion from the "Bugs" thread. I hope it is a service to
Hi,
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 11:37:21AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
Hello Yukihiro,
On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:32:01 +0000, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
>>>>> "Y" == Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:
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>>>>> "M" == MikkelFJ <mikkelfj-anti-spam@bigfoot.com> writes:
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:01:41AM +0900, ts wrote:
Hi,
[#52483] ruby if no input — "Kontra, Gergely" <kgergely@...>
Hi!
[#52487] SOAP4R proxy support? — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
I can't get SOAP4R to send requests though a proxy server. I'm setting the
[#52507] mingw install — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#52519] Interview of Matz in Login — Pierre Baillet <oct@...>
Hello there, --
[#52547] Ruby to approximate 'file'? — Austin Ziegler <austin@...>
Is there a file-type detection script available for Ruby, similar to
[#52557] Speed of Ruby/modruby vs PHP — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 08:50:48PM +0900, MikkelFJ wrote:
> How do I configure mod_ruby to run with a cached script?
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 09:44:41PM +0900, MoonWolf wrote:
Ok, here is how I understand this.
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 05:07:25PM -0400, Jim Freeze wrote:
Hi:
Jim Freeze (jim@freeze.org) wrote:
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 12:05:01PM +0900, Eric Hodel wrote:
Jim Freeze (jim@freeze.org) wrote:
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:25:56AM +0900, Eric Hodel wrote:
[#52570] Segfault when installing Test::Unit — nico <n1k0@...>
When i try to install Test::Unit 0.1.4 i get the following error:
>>>>> "n" == nico <n1k0@rogers.com> writes:
[#52579] Coroutines for discrete event simulation? — "Ken Sprague" <eclipse@...>
Is it possible to use Ruby to design a discrete event simulator using
[#52581] Platform again — Friedrich Dominicus <frido@...>
Well I ask again. On what platforms are you using ruby most of the
[#52594] CGI sessions as threads? — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>
Hello,
[#52602] Another take on ensuring right args to methods — Massimiliano Mirra <list@...>
Hi --
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 10:43:46PM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:15:05PM +0900, Massimiliano Mirra wrote:
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 05:52:46PM +0900, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:
[#52608] Update on HTTP session handling in Ruby? — "Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@...>
Hi,
[#52641] regex speed — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>
i am noticing ruby is much slower than perl when matching patterns with
[#52643] Rapid Development with Ruby — Vincent Foley <vinfoley@...>
I just read an interview with Pragmatic Andy and Dave on Amazon.com:
[#52653] webforms — "Kontra, Gergely" <kgergely@...>
Hi!
I downloaded and tried it but fails to create a session (?).
"Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@szasz.hu> writes:
[#52664] Regexp.MULTILINE — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>
while we're still on it, i wonder whose decision it is to remove perl's
[#52669] Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know — billtj@... (Bill Tj)
Hi,
Hello Bill,
>3) 'x+=b', 'x*=b' and other assignment operators is internally translated
[#52671] File.read Vs. File.sysread performance... — "Allen Mitchell" <ajm@...>
I tried the following piece of code on W2000 using a 2.4MB file
[#52681] reading from a URL — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
I need to read the content of an HTTP URL. I can break the URL up into
[#52691] eruby forms processing — <jthorne@...>
I am a newbie web programmer who has been told that ruby and eruby is
[#52693] Clearing arrays etc. in extensions — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
What are you wanting to do? Make the array have 0 elements? You could use
Hi,
[#52712] odd edge case with require — patrick-may@... (Patrick May)
$ cat test.rb
[#52727] block vars (some theory) — "Bulat Ziganshin" <bulatz@...>
Hello all,
Hi,
>>>>> "B" == Bulat Ziganshin <bulatz@integ.ru> writes:
Hi --
[#52747] Re: reading from a URL — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
This is what I'm currently doing to read from a URL through the company
[#52750] Re: reading from a URL — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
Has Matz said whether he planned to integrate your proxy authorization patch
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:02:54AM +0900, Volkmann, Mark wrote:
[#52779] mod_ruby post-request cleanup — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>
This is very likely just a bug in my code, but I figured I'd ask, just to save
[#52797] inserting an element to array at a specified position — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>
since ruby's array doesn't have index(POS, OBJ) like in python, nor
[#52801] Compiling using IMPORT, NT=1 — =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Marco_K=F6gler?= <marco.koegler@...>
Hi!
[#52806] strange Hash default behaviour — John Tromp <tromp@...>
I wrote a ruby program to read a list of graph edges and produce
[#52823] CGI sessions without cookies? — Stefan Scholl <stefan.scholl@...>
I haven't tried sessions, yet. But I'm curious if you can work
[#52834] libtemplate ruby binding — Christian Kruse <ckruse@...>
Hello together,
[#52848] Polymorphism, Isomorphism — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
Consider this a bit of public pondering...
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:12, Phil Tomson wrote:
[#52888] possible patch for singleton.rb — leikind@... (Yuri Leikind)
Hello all,
[#52910] Re: Too Many Underscores? — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
I haven't followed the discussion about new syntax for private variables
[#52930] Sorting an array of hashes — Martin Stannard <martin@...>
Hi,
[#52936] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
[#52967] Problems with coordinates and clipping — 520079130762-0001@... (Michael Neumann)
Hi,
[#52992] Re: REXML & Root Node — "Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)" <T.Hammond@...>
Matt:
[#53003] UTF-8 Character Conversion to HTML — Ben Schumacher <ben@...>
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[#53021] FYI: Can't attend RubyConf — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
I am an enthusiastic supporter of Ruby
[#53045] Sorting — warren@... (Warren Brian Noronha)
dear developer,
Hello --
> I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
Hello --
> Just a thought: why *not* copy CPAN? It's pretty good, isn't it?
Hi --
[#53141] 1.8 release? — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Sorry if this has been discussed to death, but I found no concrete mention
[#53165] access surrounding class — Matthias Veit <matthias_veit@...>
[#53183] final in ruby — "Kontra, Gergely" <kgergely@...>
Hi!
Kontra, Gergely wrote:
On 2002.10.15, Kontra, Gergely <kgergely@mlabdial.hit.bme.hu> wrote:
>> Will ruby some day support some kind of predicate or modifier, so I can
>>>>> "K" == Kontra, Gergely <kgergely@mlabdial.hit.bme.hu> writes:
[#53188] Referring to instance vars in a Struct? — "Chris Morris" <chrismo@...>
I have a Struct -- then I extend the class by adding some methods. I
[#53199] & operation and if statment — Robert McGovern <tarasis@...>
I'm puzzled by the behaviour in the following run. I would expect line 2
[#53203] ruby<=>php for web scripting — "Kontra, Gergely" <kgergely@...>
Hi!
"MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:aoesk2$l7q$1@netsrv2.spss.com...
[#53230] Please check my algorithm — Vincent Foley <vinfoley@...>
Hi, I found a nice programming challenge:
Hi --
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> dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote in message
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[#53274] FXRuby-1.0.14 Now Available — "lyle@..." <lyle@...>
I am pleased to announce the latest release of FXRuby, the Ruby language
On Wed 16 Oct 2002 at 05:32:11 +0900, lyle@knology.net wrote:
[#53278] ruby-dev summary 18458-18504 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>
Hi all,
>>>>> "T" == TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@rubycolor.org> writes:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 02:50:10PM +0900, ts wrote:
[#53284] Porting a CRC function to ruby — Matthew Miller <namille2@...>
Hello,
[#53285] Psyco — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
There's an interesting article on IBM developerWorks about a new program
[#53289] OSX file extension — "Bob X" <bobx@...>
I was just perusing some OSX sites and reading a REALbasic review when lo
[#53297] Interfaces in Ruby — web2ed@... (Edward Wilson)
Is there a way to write/inforce interfaces in Ruby like one can using
>http://rm-f.net/~cout/code/ruby/treasures/RubyTreasures-0.3/lib/hacks/interface.rb.html
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 01:25:57PM +0900, Edward Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:16:30AM +0900, Paul Brannan wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 08:13:18PM +0900, Massimiliano Mirra wrote:
On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 14:42, Paul Brannan wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:20:43PM +0900, Nat Pryce wrote:
On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 18:03, Paul Brannan wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:30:04PM +0900, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:45:41AM +0900, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 11:19:04AM +0900, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:02:53AM +0900, Chris Gehlker wrote:
[#53315] Is the debugger broken? — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Hi rubyists,
[#53328] Hooking on method invocation — viking@... (Eugene Zaikonnikov)
Hello,
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:43:05PM +0900, Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote:
[#53359] Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (10/16/02) — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>
Hi,
> 13. Ruby variables hold references to objects and the = operator
On Sat 19 Oct 2002 at 00:42:20 +0900, Kontra, Gergely wrote:
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On Tue 22 Oct 2002 at 12:18:22 +0900, Hal E. Fulton wrote:
Hello Ian,
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 06:28:29PM +0900, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Hello Mauricio,
[#53368] Marshaling with ARGF — google@... (Tom Payne)
Hi --
[#53376] Plugin autoregistration (inherited method call) — Wejn <lists+rubytalk@...>
Hi,
[#53378] Precompiling eval expressions — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>
What ways are there to pre-compile an "eval" expression which is going to be
[#53388] DBI:Pg 'autocommit' is not a valid option name — Michael Schuerig <schuerig@...>
[#53417] Strings or symbols? — Philip Mak <pmak@...>
When working with a record that has various fields represented using a
[#53422] Date handling with DBI — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Rubyists,
[#53426] Converting String to Time would be nice — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
[#53440] behaviour of nil —
Hi,
"C馘ric Foll" <cedric.foll-nospam@bigfoot.com> writes:
[#53471] Enumerable.partition — google@... (Tom Payne)
Hi --
[#53478] Ruby on RedHat 8.0? — web2ed@... (Edward Wilson)
Does anybody know whether Ruby made it into RedHat's last release
[#53481] Having trouble installing OSSL — sera@... (Francis Hwang)
I'm trying to install OSSL, but it gives me this error when I run
[#53490] Assignment — Massimo Arnaudo <marnaudo@...>
Hi everibody,
[#53493] URI bug or bad URI? — Alan Chen <alan@...>
Have a proof-of-concept application which parses drop texts. One of the
[#53496] one liner? --- split file at empty line — Dong <dongxiang@...>
I need to split a file
[#53498] one liner? --- need help splitingi a file — Dong <dongxiang@...>
I need to split a file
Hello,
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 08:27:58AM +0900, Dong wrote:
[#53513] Emacs: Ruby with Semantic — Philipp Meier <meier@...>
Hello Rubyists,
[#53553] Text::Format for Ruby (1.003) — Austin Ziegler <austin@...>
I have just reimplemented Text::Format for Perl (0.52) in Ruby. I
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 04:31:16AM +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:39:02 +0900, Massimiliano Mirra wrote:
[#53556] Help wanted with an experimental FAQ facility — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
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[#53582] realpath() method? — "Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@...>
BTW, how is the coordination of the std. lib done?
Ahhh, yes! Thanks!
[#53596] Is subclass known in superclass.initialize? (virtual constructor theme...) — "Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@...>
Is there a reasonable replacement for '?' below?
[#53613] Strange String bug (around type.to_s from mod_ruby)? — "Szabolcs Szasz" <sz@...>
(See attached files please.)
[#53626] XMLParser, NQXML, REXML, ... — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>
Hi XML-freaks,
> Hi XML-freaks,
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:01:59 +0900, Sean Chittenden wrote:
> > Markus and I are working on rubydoc which is now able to
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:07:46 +0900, Sean Chittenden wrote:
> >> Ruby, on the other hand, has two going on three different
> There is no perfect format, IMHO. XML's good for machines and for
> As a standing offer to any Ruby project: if you want to trade out XML
[#53636] Grouping by twos — martindemello@... (Martin DeMello)
Another of those trivial little problems that I obsess about finding
I ran into the same requirement and I solved it by extending the Array
[#53652] RAA.succ? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I hope there will be some discussion of RAA.succ (or is it RAA.next) at
Hi,
Hi,
In article <1035310903.958074.2185.nullmailer@picachu.netlab.jp>,
Hi,
Hi, all,
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Phil Tomson wrote:
In article <20021023041621.GC48080@perrin.int.nxad.com>,
Phil Tomson (ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com) wrote:
> >> I'd definately like to see some central repository that could be
[#53681] XML/XSLT processors - XSLT4R not working? — Chris Wong <chris_wong@...>
I'm looking for a pure Ruby XSLT processor. Stumbled across XSLT4R.
[#53685] XMLRPC and complex data structures — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Hi all,
Michael Neumann wrote:
[#53688] functional Ruby equiv to this perl snippet — bobx@... (Bob)
# parses a text file looking for server names and ignoring lines
Here is what I did...with your help and looking through different ways to
def load_server_list
I realised that my first test wasn't good for non-empty but blank
"Austin Ziegler" <austin@halostatue.ca> wrote in message
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 05:54:49 +0900, Bob X wrote:
Hi,
"Daniel Berger" <djberge@qwest.com> wrote in message
[#53703] rb_gc_register_address problem — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>
We ran into a problem today with the garbage collector (caused by our
Paul Brannan wrote:
[#53707] Unicode GUIs on Windows — Philip Mak <pmak@...>
For anyone who's interested in developing GUIs that use Unicode, I'm
Philip Mak wrote:
Philip Mak wrote:
[#53771] Perl multiple match RE in Ruby? — michael libby <x@...>
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[#53780] Ruby/Tk newbie question — "ursus major" <someone@...>
Folks:
[#53795] How to get unique names from file — Korshunov Ilya <kosha@...>
What i have - Proftpd log file in the following format -
[#53823] Using variables in conn.exec (pgsql) — Korshunov Ilya <kosha@...>
I want to create complex sql query for pgsql.
[#53865] XMLRPC and IP authentication — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Hi all,
Hi,
[#53884] SQLite — "Bob X" <bobx@...>
Anyone working on a Ruby interface for SQLite?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:38:31 +0900, Bob X wrote:
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi all,
On Saturday 02 November 2002 7:57 pm, Enric Lafont wrote:
Albert Wagner wrote:
On Sunday 03 November 2002 5:53 am, Anders Bengtsson wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 04:12:39 +0900, Albert Wagner wrote:
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:57:29AM +0900, Enric Lafont wrote:
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:57:29 +0900, Enric Lafont wrote:
On Saturday 02 November 2002 11:56 pm, Austin Ziegler wrote:
Austin Ziegler wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:44:46 +0900, Enric Lafont wrote:
From: "Enric Lafont" <enric@1smart.com>
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 10:02:12PM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:18:47 +0900, Brian Candler wrote:
It is a sign of my hybrid Objective-C background, no doubt, but I
Brad Cox wrote:
> > >
> -----Original Message-----
Rich wrote:
>
Hal E. Fulton wrote:
[#53885] Ruby Weekly News — Dave@...
----- Original Message -----
> > Ruby Weekly News: 10/20/2002
"Hal E. Fulton" wrote:
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 10:50, Daniel Berger wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> That said, FreeRIDE will have significant capabilities specific to Ruby
[#53953] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (10/16/02) — "Mills Thomas (app1tam)" <app1tam@...>
But why does it really, REALLY mean that? Was there a reason for doing
Hal E. Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
Hi --
[#53957] NODE tree introspection — Simon Cozens <simon@...>
[#53981] Ruby and Windows — "Regina Goodwin" <amanishakhete@...>
When I open up Ruby on my Windows Desktop and I write code, how do I get it
[#53982] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (10/16/02) — "Mills Thomas (app1tam)" <app1tam@...>
It's not non-sensical. If it appeared that I mean for all objects to use
[#53983] Re: Things That Newcomers to Ruby Should Know (10/16/02) — "Mills Thomas (app1tam)" <app1tam@...>
Actually, the way you describe '+=' makes sense to me. It is what I would
Hi,
Hi --
Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com> wrote:
[#53992] On Using Data_Wrap_Struct — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#54005] comp.lang.ruby FAQ — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2002-9-20)
[#54017] array[start..end] gives unexpected results — ito@...
Is this correct?
[#54021] Ever write a video game in ruby? — Philip Mak <pmak@...>
Has anyone ever written a video game in ruby, of similar technological
[#54039] Read "current line" from a file? — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
All,
[#54065] ruby calls perl — Carlos <angus@...>
Why does ruby call perl?
[#54090] ruby for DOS — "Andres Hidalgo" <sol123@...>
Is there a version of Ruby for DOS?
[#54110] Visual C++ controversy — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@...>
Pardon me for this somewhat off-topic issue.
[#54111] How come true, false don't support <=> (comparison) operator? — cilibrar@... (Rudi Cilibrasi)
I am wondering if there is a good reason why Ruby does not by default
Hello --
In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0210250754010.2650-100000@candle.superlink.net>,
Hi --
dblack@candle.superlink.net writes:
Hi --
In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0210261701170.16157-100000@candle.superlink.net>,
Simon Cozens wrote:
[#54134] Re: How come true, false don't support <=> (comparison) operator? — "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@...>
Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:59:36 +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net <dblack@candle.superlink.net> pisze:
[#54164] Too Brief Before? -- fonts in win32 — "Alan (Ursus Major)" <ursus@...>
Folks:
[#54189] exerb question — Floyd Smith <fjs@...>
I am using exerb to create executables under Windows. Certain scripts
Sorry - forgot to include the error message:
[#54223] WE CAN HALVE YOUR TELEPHONE BILLS!! — "Discount Calls UK" <discountcalls@...>
With our UK National & local Calls costing as little as 1.65p per minute!
[#54237] Re: Very Uregent — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
I think we should refrain non-members fr posting to this list.
I agree
[#54238] net/protocol.rb version 1.1.37 warning: already initialized constant Errno — "Robert Linder" <robert_linder_2000@...>
Hi,
[#54239] Snippet request: Ruby Web Server written in under an hour — Phlip <phlipcpp@...>
Rubies:
Phlip <phlipcpp@yahoo.com> writes:
Rubies:
Hi --
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:38:57PM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Hi --
dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Bulat Ziganshin <bulatz@integ.ru> wrote:
Hi --
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:42:25AM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Hi --
dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 17:38, William Djaja Tjokroaminata wrote:
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 12:13 pm, Nat Pryce wrote:
[#54268] Package directory structure during development — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
All,
[#54269] How to invoke === using custom classes and case statements. — khabibiuf@... (Khurram)
Hi all,
[#54280] exerb & fox-problem; converting gui-script to .exe on windows — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>
Hi,
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:03:09 +0900, Armin Roehrl wrote:
Am Montag, 28. Oktober 2002 16:20 schrieb Austin Ziegler:
I've been able to get all of the exerb samples to work for me.
Am Montag, 28. Oktober 2002 16:53 schrieb Austin Ziegler:
[#54314] Learn and Earn...Join For FREE! — Nicolas Tubilla <ryu_ken@...>
Hello:
[#54316] Fixnum assignment undefined??? Is it a bug, or blindness? — Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@...>
In the routine:
Charles Hixson <charleshixsn@earthlink.net> wrote:
William Djaja Tjokroaminata wrote:
[#54354] good link to read as we contemplate RAA, RAA.succ, et al — Pat Eyler <pate@...>
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/wlg/2225
Hi --
> Interesting. Simon (hi Simon!) is probably right that "Definitive
" JamesBritt" <james@jamesbritt.com> writes:
I missed the original mails that explained this.
Simon Cozens <simon@ermine.ox.ac.uk> writes:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:16:29 +0900, Jim Menard wrote:
[#54357] Re: net/http segfault — "michael libby" <x@...>
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
>>>>> "m" == michael libby <x@ichimunki.com> writes:
[#54359] Blogging RubyConf — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
I'm wondering if anyone will be blogging the RubyConf? It's a rare opportunity to
[#54364] problem with recursive structure — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#54365] ruby fails to install on a Cray SV1 — Bil Kleb <W.L.Kleb@...>
Believe it or not, I would like to install ruby on a Cray SV1.
[#54380] Dynamically executed methods in Ruby? — mirian@... (Mirian Crzig Lennox)
This is a little hard to explain, and I'm not sure if Ruby can
[#54387] Close Internet Explorer — "Bass" <miner@...>
Hi,
I only have a windows environment. Does anybody know how to install the
[#54412] bug in Fox or in Ruby? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#54421] want to meet Microsoft .NET guy? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Hi,
----- Original Message -----
[#54429] "multiple assignment in conditional" — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Rubies,
[#54440] THIS IS A SPAM MAIL — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
This is a test mail for the spam filter of ruby-talk ML.
[#54449] feature idea: custom literals — loats205@... (loats205)
wouldn't it be cool if you could define custom literal representations for your
loats205 wrote:
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 11:41, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:
[#54478] DbTalk 0.71 — Dalibor Sramek <dali@...>
I would like to announce a new release of my Ruby project DbTalk.
[#54487] Problems installing and running IOWA — Radek Hnilica <Radek@...>
Hello
[#54495] Ruby and Large File sizes — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
[#54528] Please help me modify this... — bobx@... (Bob)
This currently works:
[#54543] define_finalizer does NOT work — ahoward <ahoward@...>
[#54595] Is this the best start to ruby socket server for flash clients? — moonerent@... (Rick)
Hello,
[#54604] Readline Module and completion_proc — Pierre Baillet <oct@...>
Dear rubyists,
[#54616] Re: Amazon launches Ruby! — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>
> -----Original Message-----
[#54626] Ruby at OSCon — Pat Eyler <pate@...>
And for my next trick, watch me pull a conference out of my hat ...
Re: ruby-talk separation, part II
> > > >ZenTest and ZenWeb were just released. I announced these to > > > >several lists including this one. I'm sure many of you got > > > >multiple copies. I admit that is annoying. These releases > > > >announce my LAST announcements to ruby-talk@. I'll be > > > >announcing only to announce@rubynet.org. I urge every developer > > > >releasing ruby scripts, modules, or anyone having ruby-related > > > >events to use this as your primary means of announcing your > > > >information. It will cut down on volumes of email that we get > > > >and make it easier to focus on the work at hand. > > I'm not clear on how this would help me cut on down on e-mail, > unless I stop reading ruby-talk. I'm about 2 hairs away from putting -talk down next to my SPAM folder and fully intend to move it down in my order of lists to read as soon as this thread dies. So in essence, yes, I plan on reading talk about once every two weeks, at best. > The announcement list is not guaranteed to carry all announcements, > unless the list manager is watching all other lists for > announcements not sent to the announcement list. Correct. announce@postgresql.org doesn't have every PostgreSQL related announcement, neither does announce@apache.org (the other project I forgot to mention that I track heavily). Somethings will be missed... but I'm willing to let a few things fall through the cracks to save the time it'd take every day to read this list, I'm sure others would agree as well. An announcement on -talk is a pin-head sized diamond in the desert, it happens once every 200-500 posts. > If somebody has a new class or library, then they should add it to > the RAA index. Want to see what's new? Go to the RAA. NO, WRONG! This is the same broken attitude that promotes the use of Wiki's, which, as far as I'm concerned are a black hole for information and should be avoided at all costs. Want to propagate information? Setup a cvs commit emailer that sends out diffs. Fire up a docbook project and hand out cvs accounts left and right. What do you have at the end of a wiki? A chunk of HTML and a community. What do you have at the end of a docbook +cvs exercise? A publishable book that's factual and reference-able. Chris Morris's wiki/cvs commit dilly is of interest to me because it could mean that wiki's will actually broadcast raw information and will allow folks to stop having to hit the website for changes... never mind the second step required to get a diff. > Use an RSS feed. This will be used actually. I've got a digest version of this that'll send announce@ a nicely formatted email that has all of the modules that are new from the last week and a list of all of the modules that were updated. The nice thing about this is that it gets _sent_ to me, I don't have to go trolling around looking for information. > > Honestly? I don't really care. -talk is close to -chat. Most of > > the 35K emails to ruby I've scanned over because they don't > > interest me. Not to say that what people are saying isn't > > interesting, just that what they're talking about has little > > relevance or bearing on my use of Ruby. > > This seems like basically the same discussion that occurred back at > the start of the year > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/32121 I remember it vividly and instead of subjecting myself to stating my opinion once and hoping that the content contained within would prove to be useful in swaying opinions, but I'm going to be a PITA and reply to almost every post on this topic until this horse is sufficiently dead. My apologies in advance for the ensuing missives (or hopefully not). I have no interest in responding to every email, but that seems to be the way that discussions take place on this list so I'll join the trend for a while. > What has changed since then? Hopefully there are more folk using Ruby for commercial applications and are more people who are interested in talking about only Ruby as it stands and being able to use it for its purposes as opposed to slaughtering -talk with many well thought out, but still off topic, posts about various nuances of programming. > I have no trouble following the volume on ruby-talk, and can (still) > easily pick what threads to follow or ignore. It's not an issue of following the volume or content, it's caring about the content. When I send something to freebsd-net@freebsd.org or subscribe to that list, I'm pretty much guaranteed that the topics at hand are going to be network related and aren't going to pertain to re-architecting FreeBSD's signal queuing or the latest SMP bungle from Intel. On the networking list, the topic sticks pretty close to networking and the bits that flow in and out of various interfaces. This may seem strange for -talk goers, but there are days where there are only one or two posts, and others where there aren't any at all!!!! Novel concept. > I can see a problem if a handful of people end up using ruby-talk > for their personal project list, flooding the list with messages of > little interest to 98% of the other subscribers. Does academic interest in programming languages count as personal project list? > Still, if I ever decide that anybody has become hyperfocused on a > topic no longer suited for ruby-talk, even after some public > admonishment, I can simply add the name to my kill file. But, if there were multiple mailing lists, we wouldn't have to tend to this nearly as much. I for one, don't moderate or filter anything that goes to a list because off topic posts to a list get killed real fast by a lack of interest. There's something to be said for community peer pressure for keeping things on topic. > I'd rather first see social pressure used to contain off-topic or > dead-horse threads before invoking fragmentation and possible > isolation. I have an interest in, for example, database > programming, but I don't want to subscribe to a list solely on that > topic, as database programming only occupies a relatively small and > sporadic amount of my time. Heh, speak of the devil. I agree that social pressure helps keep things within the bounds of Ruby, but that takes 10 emails to have go into effect and is close to worthless on a list with the volume of Ruby's. Having a list that was dedicated only to database programming would get close to no traffic, but when it did, it would hopefully have the aggregate minds of the people who use or write database software for Ruby. Same goes for modruby@modruby.net, low volume, high quality posts. I like those kinds of lists. > What I find troublesome is the implied message that people should > *stop* using ruby-talk for an accepted practice (making > announcements), and the suggestion that people who don't join the > announcement-list bandwagon will miss out on future announcements. announce@ will be cross posted to -talk by someone, you can't ever escape that from happening, but its impractical for people to assume that -talk is a good place for announcements pertaining to Ruby. -talk is a good place for discussion, that's been prooven... I don't care about discussion so much though, only code, bugs, what's new, and the specific bits here and there that pertain to what I'm doing. I'm sure I'm not alone. > One thing I really like about ruby-talk is the opportunity for > serendipity, something that would decrease over time as more lists > are created. I want to be able to scan threads that aren't of an > immediate interest to me, just to see what's going on. I have no interest in that though, more correctly, no time. I don't want to preclude people from using -talk, it's clear that many like Ruby and -talk because of this aspect. I, however, for the sake of taking a stance and position, am going to portray myself as a cold hearted, self involved, corporate email machine that doesn't like any of the fluff and only wants the the bits, diffs, and specific problems for specific topics, that's it. I can track lists here and there that are on topic and focused, but long winded threads that last for weeks at a time? If a problem can't be solved inside of 10 emails, then there's a communication problem or the discussion isn't a problem, very rarely is it an actual problem that requires extensive public discussion: I haven't seen an instance of that yet on -talk. > More lists mean more work, less fun. Or for the busy, means more fun because information gets prioritized and categorized. Roughly 10% of my email over the last year has been Ruby email, of that, however, only 0.05% of it has been of interest. If we had the other lists in place, that'd be an extra 9.95% of time that I could spend on other things. -sc -- Sean Chittenden