[#406419] Recursion with Hash — Love U Ruby <lists@...>

h = {a: {b: {c: 23}}}

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[#406465] Exclusively for Rubyists, a community on Facebook — "senthil k." <lists@...>

I was surprised to know that there is no community for Ruby Programming

12 messages 2013/04/03
[#406467] Re: Exclusively for Rubyists, a community on Facebook — Marc Heiler <lists@...> 2013/04/04

Thing is, some people do not use Facebook and never will.

[#406468] Re: Exclusively for Rubyists, a community on Facebook — Aghori Shaivite <aghorishaivite@...> 2013/04/04

Yeah... but some people don't use email, or the internet, or computers. So

[#406528] Role of bundler in creating and installing a gem — Jon Cairns <lists@...>

Hi fellow rubyists,

11 messages 2013/04/05

[#406555] How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — peteV <pete0verse@...>

Hi Ruby people,

18 messages 2013/04/05
[#406558] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — "Carlo E. Prelz" <fluido@...> 2013/04/05

Subject: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is?

[#406560] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — Hans Mackowiak <lists@...> 2013/04/05

Carlo E. Prelz wrote in post #1104616:

[#406562] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — "D. Deryl Downey" <me@...> 2013/04/05

Actually its not wrong. What it does is explicitly state which ruby

[#406563] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — Matt Lawrence <matt@...> 2013/04/05

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, D. Deryl Downey wrote:

[#406564] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — Hans Mackowiak <lists@...> 2013/04/05

Matt Lawrence wrote in post #1104625:

[#406566] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — Matt Lawrence <matt@...> 2013/04/05

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Hans Mackowiak wrote:

[#406570] Re: How do you know what the main file in Ruby Projects is? — Matthew Mongeau <halogenandtoast@...> 2013/04/05

I'm interested in the issue with using env, but I find you explanation a but hard to follow. What are some situations that lead to the problems you are describing. I'm currently using env in some gems and if there is a strong argument against it, I don't mind switching it.

[#406600] Mapping string data ptr to buffer in ffi — se gm <lists@...>

I'm trying to implement some "shared memory" in Ruby, but I'm not sure

20 messages 2013/04/08

[#406683] confusion with Struct class — Love U Ruby <lists@...>

I went to there - http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Struct.html but the

29 messages 2013/04/11
[#406694] Re: confusion with Struct class — Love U Ruby <lists@...> 2013/04/11

Why does every time the has value getting changed,while the instance

[#406762] Why does #content method in nokogiri not printing the full text? — Love U Ruby <lists@...>

Here is the documentation: http://www.rubydoc.info/gems/nokogiri/frames

19 messages 2013/04/14
[#406764] Re: Why does #content method in nokogiri not printing the full text? — tamouse mailing lists <tamouse.lists@...> 2013/04/14

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Love U Ruby <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#406874] Input: sentence Modify: words Output: modified sentence — Philip Parker <lists@...>

I am new to Ruby. This is a programming interview question to use any

11 messages 2013/04/19

[#406912] Tap method : good or bad practice ? — Sébastien Durand <lists@...>

Hi all !

18 messages 2013/04/21

[#406936] BEGINNER -CLASS QUERY — shaik farooq <lists@...>

HEY as we know that the object conatins the instance variables that are

22 messages 2013/04/22

[#406966] copying files syntax with FileUtils.rb (grr.) — Thomas Luedeke <lists@...>

In my Ruby scripting, there is probably no greater and chronic source of

10 messages 2013/04/23

[#406969] what is the $- magic global? — Matthew Kerwin <lists@...>

I've been searching for the past hour or so, including manually stepping

13 messages 2013/04/24

[#407059] New Rexx like data structure — Peter Hickman <peterhickman386@...>

This is just something that I have been playing with for some time but I

11 messages 2013/04/29

[#407070] writing lines to a file — peteV <pete0verse@...>

I have a text file with on every line a magic card number and such info

13 messages 2013/04/29

Messaging Passing and context

From: Julian Leviston <julian@...>
Date: 2013-04-07 02:47:37 UTC
List: ruby-talk #406589
Hi,

I've often wanted what I'm about to describe.

Some history about me, so you know this isn't a complete noob question: I understand separation of concerns and encapsulation quite well (at least, I think I do). I've been programming in object oriented languages for most of my life (I'm 37, and I started SmallTalk when I was 17). I've programmed in most languages: SmallTalk, Java, Ruby, forth, Python, C/C++, BASIC, VisualBasic, ASM, LISP (common, scheme, racket), JavaScript, Self, bit of Haskell, Erlang etc., etc.

Context here is object-oriented message sending:

class Person
attr_accessor :mood
def say_hi_to(someone)
puts "hiya"
end
end

class Nerd < Person
# likes inside, dislikes outside
end

class Jock < Person
# likes outside, dislikes inside
end

class Socialite < Person
# doesn't care in or outside, but only likes places where people are interacting socially
end

class Place
attr_accessor :inside, :social, :bookish
def initialize(&block)
if block
yield
end
end
end

class Playground < Place
def intiialize(&block)
self.inside = false
self.social = true
self.bookish = false
super(&block)
end
end

def Library < Place
def initialize(&block)
self.inside = true
self.social = false
self.bookish = true
super(&block)
end
end

def Field < Place
def initialize(&block)
self.inside = false
self.social = false
self.bookish = false
super(&block)
end
end

field = Field.new {
julian = Nerd.new
dave = Jock.new
greginsky = Socialite.new
}

So what I'm interested in, when an object sends a message to another object, why is there no context-sensitivity? In other words, (all judgements aside as this is just a trivial example), I'd like the nerd to be defined as a person who dislikes outside areas, therefore behaves according to his mood when he's outside perhaps.

Instantiating a Nerd inside a FIeld... or messaging him with the say_hi type message should be able to bear some context on what that nerd's reply is. I'm not stipulating a tight coupling of context to object, I *like* decoupled contexts, and I like interfaces, but just like the mechanism of introspection, it'd be useful and nice to be able to garner *some* information about the calling context, especially if (and this is my real beef) the calling context WANTS TO GIVE THE INFORMATION. The obvious solution is simply to change the interface so it contributes a variable which passes across this information, but versioning interfaces is a complete pain - I'd like to have a common object (called caller, possibly) that I could query from within a method without the caller having to pass through "self" every single time. Thus we could then apply some duck typing in the callee side and get it to ask some questions of its context before responding to messages.

Am I missing some obvious design considerations here?

I guess I'm talking more about language design than language usage, so there might be a better place to discuss this. Comments?

Julian

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