[#362083] Teaching Programming Languages (including Ruby) — Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...>

Hello,

20 messages 2010/05/02

[#362098] Main working window for Ruby is DOS? — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

I know nothing about programming and am not a techy person, so please

16 messages 2010/05/03

[#362116] School teacher still at it learning programming language — Hilary Bailey <my77elephants@...>

Now I while glimpsing at the beauty of Ruby, there is the software of

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[#362166] Something I expected to work, but didn't! — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <kurtisrainboltgreene@...>

irb(main):001:0> x = 2

11 messages 2010/05/04

[#362215] for-in vs. map closures — Mike Austin <mike_ekim@...>

I was experimenting with closures and JavaScript's and Ruby's

11 messages 2010/05/05

[#362286] ri on sqlite — Intransition <transfire@...>

What do others think of a creating a new ri tool which uses a SQLite

17 messages 2010/05/06

[#362341] ease of porting (translating) ruby to C (vs. python)? — bwv549 <jtprince@...>

In a very small bioinformatics group I know of, they are deciding

17 messages 2010/05/07

[#362375] Strings iteration — Viorel <viorelvladu@...>

I have some names like aaxxbbyy where xx is '01'..'10' and yy is also

14 messages 2010/05/08

[#362425] Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...>

Have apps moved over to the web (or GUI) totally ? Will there be any

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[#362441] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362448] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

interface and/or the installation itself is terrible.

[#362458] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362460] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

botp wrote:

[#362463] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

Strange. I cant push a gem even after yanking.

[#362452] Unit Test of method calling system() - how? — Martin Hansen <mail@...>

How can I unit test the two methods:

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[#362498] In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@...>

In Ruby, it seems that a lot of coerce() help can be done by

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[#362546] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/05/11

On 5/10/10, Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362611] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/05/12

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362657] Asynchronous HTTP request — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com>

Does anyone know how to do the following, but without threads, purely

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[#362718] Range on strings. — Vikrant Chaudhary <nasa42@...>

Hi,

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[#362787] class best way for getters ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

i have a class "HFSFile" initialized by a parsed string

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[#362979] curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>

Two questions:

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[#362980] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

On 10-05-18 02:35 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail wrote:

[#362982] Re: curl library? — Luis Parravicini <lparravi@...> 2010/05/18

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and

[#362984] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

Well, I got that -dev thing installed with apt-get, and then I tried again and

[#363027] Retrieve instance — Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@...>

Quick question. Can I somehow retrieve the instance of the class Test in

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[#363076] Scrape javascript content — Phil Mcdonnell <phil.a.mcdonnell@...>

I'm trying to scrape a page that hides some data behind a javascript

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[#363115] OMG, why are there so many Strings in ObjectSpace! — timr <timrandg@...>

I was playing around looking at ObjectSpace in irb and was astounded

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[#363225] Redefine a Class? — Mark T <paradisaeidae@...>

Currently this raises: superclass mismatch for class Soda (TypeError)

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[#363240] Funny IO.select behaviour — Dennis Nedry <dennis@...>

I've been debugging my full screen console ruby editor.

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[#363348] Ruby as Client Side Language in Web Browser (replacing JS) — "Simone R." <k5mmx@...>

Hi everybody,

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[#363412] A better way to write this function? — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

Here is my attempt at Newton's second law in Ruby:

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[#363417] Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...>

This is my problem :

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[#363447] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Branden Tanga <branden.tanga@...> 2010/05/28

Emmanuel Emmanuel wrote:

[#363483] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...> 2010/05/29

[#363426] A complete beginners question — Ant Walliams <anthonywainwright@...>

Hi there,

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[#363432] Dynamic SVG with Ruby/Tk — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

The example I'm looking for in regards to ruby/SVG differs from the

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[#363467] Date.today problem on linux with Ruby 1.8.6 — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>

Hello.

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[#363524] enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Bug Free <amberarrow@...>

The following line:

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[#363528] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/31

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bug Free <amberarrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#363533] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/05/31

2010/5/31 botp <botpena@gmail.com>:

Re: Teaching Programming Languages (including Ruby)

From: Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...>
Date: 2010-05-03 08:50:44 UTC
List: ruby-talk #362115
Dear Robert,

Thanks for your well thought out response.

On 3/05/2010, at 6:15 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:

> On 05/02/2010 02:28 PM, Samuel Williams wrote:
>> This is a follow up from previous postings about teaching Ruby in the class room.
>> I've now come full circle, and put together this website:
>> 	http://programming.dojo.net.nz/
> 
> I don't find your description of Java accurate.  For one, it has a slightly negative tendency ("This can make it difficult to write short and concise Java programs.").  I'd rather stick with descriptions as factual as possible.  I would only put such a statement in a later chapter but not directly on the introductory page.
> 

Yes I agree with you. I've removed the statement.

Are there any other issues which you feel are not correct? I'd prefer to make it as good as possible, so if there are other inaccuracies it would be good to improve.

> Then, you could argue that Ruby is even more object oriented than Java because it does not have primitive types.  Also, the ascription that it is an interpreted languages is at least incorrect in two ways: it insinuates that it is slower than compiled languages - which it is not - and it misses the point of modern HotSpot JVM's with dynamic compilation of byte code into machine code.

Are you saying that I should not describe Ruby as an interpreted language? Or, should I discuss that interpreted languages can be as fast as compiled languages through advanced techniques such as hotspot compilation?

The latter seems like the best option to me.. what do you think?

> 
>> This site is about programming languages in general, and is designed to be a starting point for people interested in learning more about a given programming language.
>> I'd be really grateful for people to look at the site and let me know any feedback about the content and how it is presented.
>> In particular interest to this group is the Ruby page:
>> 	http://programming.dojo.net.nz/languages/ruby/index
> 
> The introductory sentence misses the phrase "object oriented" which I consider at least as important as the others (if not more important). I'd probably write "Ruby is a dynamically typed, object oriented programming language ..."

Yes this makes sense, I wonder how I missed that... to many late nights :p I've updated it with this new text.

> 
> If anything this seems to be an ambitious project.  Good luck!
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> 	robert
> 
> -- 
> remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end
> http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/

Thanks for your feedback.

Kind regards,
Samuel

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