[#351786] Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...>

In porting some automation code from 1.8.7 to 1.9.1, I find that in ruby

16 messages 2009/12/01
[#351787] Re: Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...> 2009/12/01

[ Sorry for the horrible indentation. I repeat the text renouncing to

[#351816] Re: Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/12/01

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Raul Parolari <raulparolari@gmail.com> wrote:

[#351818] Re: Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...> 2009/12/01

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#351822] Re: Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/01

2009/12/1 Raul Parolari <raulparolari@gmail.com>:

[#351823] Re: Splat array with 1 value in Ruby 1.9 vs Ruby 1.8 — Raul Parolari <raulparolari@...> 2009/12/01

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#351878] Graphics mode — Teodor Carstea <teodorcarstea@...>

Hi all! I'm a beginner.

24 messages 2009/12/02

[#351881] duda sobre nuevo metodo — "David J,nas" <acidburg@...>

mi routers.rb es

18 messages 2009/12/02
[#351886] Re: duda sobre nuevo metodo — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2009/12/02

On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:18 AM, David J,nas wrote:

[#351894] Re: duda sobre nuevo metodo — "David J,nas" <acidburg@...> 2009/12/02

Rob Biedenharn wrote:

[#351900] Re: duda sobre nuevo metodo — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2009/12/02

On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, David J,nas wrote:

[#351950] Encoding/decoding a image as Base64 (fails under Ruby1.9 but works under Ruby1.8) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, the folowing code encodes and decodes a image file as Base64:

8 messages 2009/12/03

[#352043] Graphics mode again — Teodor Carstea <teodorcarstea@...>

>Hi, all! here is my prog: it calculates the trajectory of a cannon shell:

15 messages 2009/12/04

[#352051] gems installation - invalid gem format — Serguei Cambour <s.cambour@...>

No matter on which OS you are, - XP Family, XP Pro or Ubuntu 9.10. No

10 messages 2009/12/04

[#352101] how about ruby's threads? — Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2009/12/05
[#352106] Re: how about ruby's threads? — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/12/05

On Friday 04 December 2009 09:39:33 pm Ruby Newbee wrote:

[#352149] Re: how about ruby's threads? — Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@...> 2009/12/06

Well, I asked this because Perl thread documentation warns that

[#352170] Re: how about ruby's threads? — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/12/06

First, it's just a preference, but I think most on the list agree to me --

[#352190] Re: how about ruby's threads? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/12/07

David Masover wrote:

[#352122] ruby 1.9 and collect — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...>

Under ruby 1.8.6, running

13 messages 2009/12/05

[#352138] Why doesn't Ruby "compile" strings? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, the following code:

12 messages 2009/12/06

[#352150] IRB GUI on OSX? — Sophie <itsme213@...>

Is there a good GUI IRB on OSX? Preferably one that lets me easily

14 messages 2009/12/06

[#352192] Reading Images — Alexandro Kez <alexandro.mail@...>

Hei there, ruby coders,

14 messages 2009/12/07
[#352193] Re: Reading Images — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/07

2009/12/7 Alexandro Kez <alexandro.mail@gmail.com>

[#352206] Wordpress Port — hjast <hjast89@...>

Has there any been an effort to make a ruby Wordpress port? I am a

30 messages 2009/12/07

[#352220] convert string into a variable object — Ad Ad <codetest123@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2009/12/07
[#352221] Re: convert string into a variable object — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2009/12/07

Ad Ad wrote:

[#352225] Re: convert string into a variable object — Ad Ad <codetest123@...> 2009/12/07

Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#352390] Mysql::Error: Data too long for column — "rabarama" <profpelosotoglimi@...>

Pleas i need help:

12 messages 2009/12/09

[#352459] human-readable listing of array elements — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

This took me less than a minute to write, but I don't know if it's as

22 messages 2009/12/10

[#352463] Re: Redirecting standard output — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Omar Campos wrote:

17 messages 2009/12/10
[#352509] Re: Redirecting standard output — Omar Campos <hypermeister@...> 2009/12/11

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! Nice gem by the way. I

[#352510] Re: Redirecting standard output — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2009/12/11

Omar Campos wrote:

[#352492] syntax issue — Sig Dx <sigbackup@...>

Hello guys,

17 messages 2009/12/10

[#352556] program: a small ball in a window — Teodor Carstea <teodorcarstea@...>

Please help, I realy need help!

11 messages 2009/12/11

[#352607] Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I have a Python software called "py_program". It runs as daemon in Linux

28 messages 2009/12/11
[#352612] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/12/11

On Friday 11 December 2009 04:34:04 pm I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#352616] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2009/12/11

El S叩bado, 12 de Diciembre de 2009, David Masover escribi坦:

[#352618] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/12/12

On Friday 11 December 2009 05:33:06 pm I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#352631] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2009/12/12

El S叩bado, 12 de Diciembre de 2009, David Masover escribi坦:

[#352641] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/12/12

I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#352642] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/12/12

Brian Candler wrote:

[#352647] Re: Is it possible to force a Ruby program to run as a proc name different than "ruby"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2009/12/12

El S叩bado, 12 de Diciembre de 2009, Brian Candler escribi坦:

[#352653] How to make a ruby program tu run unser other user:group different than root — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, many daemons allow an argument "-u uid" which makes the program to run

12 messages 2009/12/12

[#352694] Code block for element comparison in an array? — Derek Cannon <novellterminator@...>

I'm new to Ruby and I can't think of how to do this! I would like each

14 messages 2009/12/13

[#352736] Poll: Significant Indentation — David Masover <ninja@...>

I've just re-read the "Beating a Dead Horse" thread. I will bring that up

30 messages 2009/12/13

[#352922] Using threads to show progress — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

I want to do this in a Rake task, but the concept is Ruby. I would like

22 messages 2009/12/15
[#352925] Re: Using threads to show progress — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2009/12/15

Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#352941] Re: Using threads to show progress — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/12/16

On Tuesday 15 December 2009 01:53:21 pm Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#352943] Re: Using threads to show progress — Piyush Ranjan <piyush.pr@...> 2009/12/16

How about using a queue ?

[#353056] Encapsulating Information and Behavior without State — Intransition <transfire@...>

This should prove an interesting topic. I am currently debating two

9 messages 2009/12/17

[#353070] How to fund an open-source project? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...>

In the recent thread on Ruby VMs I mentioned my newly launched RubyGoLightly project [0], currently a bit of non-compilable vapourware forked from Marc-Andre Cournoyer's TinyRb codebase. Whilst Google's public release of Go is directly responsible for my taking the plunge on this, the general idea is something I've discussed privately with a number of people in the community over the past couple of years.

23 messages 2009/12/17
[#353071] Re: How to fund an open-source project? — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/12/17

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Eleanor McHugh

[#353233] Re: How to fund an open-source project? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/12/20

On 17 Dec 2009, at 23:28, Gregory Brown wrote:

[#353258] Re: How to fund an open-source project? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/20

On 20.12.2009 02:28, Eleanor McHugh wrote:

[#353088] Suggestion of Array#=== which improves case/when behaviour — Dmitry Vazhov <dmitryelastic@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2009/12/18
[#353090] Re: Suggestion of Array#=== which improves case/when behavio — Dmitry Vazhov <dmitryelastic@...> 2009/12/18

"Set" class has meaning close to "Range" class. If we will define

[#353173] Re: Suggestion of Array#=== which improves case/when behavio — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/12/18

> Dmitry Vazhov wrote:

[#353198] Re: Suggestion of Array#=== which improves case/when behavio — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/12/19

I would absolutely love if Array recursively performed #=== on its

[#353200] Re: Suggestion of Array#=== which improves case/when behavio — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/12/19

Hi --

[#353089] Math errors — jzakiya <jzakiya@...>

(-3)**3 => -27

19 messages 2009/12/18

[#353151] Question about sum of fibonacci sequene [PROJECT EULER] — Panagiotis Atmatzidis <atma@...>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

10 messages 2009/12/18

[#353319] Help with gem ruby mysql error — Andrew Ting <drikting@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2009/12/21

[#353322] Ruby's implementation of Fixnum-assignment — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2009/12/21

[#353339] promiscuous mode — Marco Biscetti <bisciasia@...>

Hi guys. i have a question. i am new in a ruby world.

13 messages 2009/12/21

[#353353] Strange behavior of unary +@ for Fixnum? — Alexandre Mutel <alexandre_mutel@...>

It seems that it's not possible to use the unary +@ operator for Fixnum

14 messages 2009/12/21

[#353357] Symbols vs. constants? — Sonja Elen Kisa <sonja@...>

How are symbols and constant (capitalized) strings similar or

35 messages 2009/12/22
[#353359] Re: Symbols vs. constants? — Gennady Bystritsky <Gennady.Bystritsky@...> 2009/12/22

Constants are variables that can be assigned to any object (only once). While symbols are immutable instances of class Symbol. Those are 2 totally different concepts.

[#353360] Re: Symbols vs. constants? — "Young H." <armywide@...> 2009/12/22

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Gennady Bystritsky

[#353396] integers and floats — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

Can someone explain to me why Ruby treats integers and floating point

16 messages 2009/12/22
[#353398] Re: integers and floats — Paul Smith <paul@...> 2009/12/22

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@gmail.com> wrote:

[#353402] newbie: if is not null else... — Alfonso Caponi <alfonso.caponi@...>

Hi forum,

16 messages 2009/12/22

[#353453] Suggestions for a distributed job queue — Tony Arcieri <tony@...>

I'm looking at replacing our homebrew job queue with something better, and

15 messages 2009/12/22
[#353457] Re: Suggestions for a distributed job queue — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/12/22

> -----Original Message-----

[#353477] Trig value errors — jzakiya <jzakiya@...>

Hardware: 32-bit Intel P4 cpu

58 messages 2009/12/23

[#353482] awk print $4 in ruby — Derek Smith <derekbellnersmith@...>

Hi All,

17 messages 2009/12/23

[#353690] pasing data between 2 win XP boxes via internet — Dave Lilley <dglnz2@...>

Hi folks,

23 messages 2009/12/26

[#353733] How to truncate the spaces in the front of a line — Milo Luo <lxybhbh@...>

Hi, guys

13 messages 2009/12/27
[#353735] Re: How to truncate the spaces in the front of a line — Phillip Gawlowski <pg@...> 2009/12/27

On 27.12.2009 04:22, Milo Luo wrote:

[#353739] building ruby from source — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

I removed my older ruby package from my ubuntu, built ruby from source

14 messages 2009/12/27

[#353823] au3 0.1.1 released — Marvin Gülker <sutniuq@...>

au3 0.1.1 has been released. au3 is a library that allows you to

23 messages 2009/12/28
[#353837] Re: [ANN] au3 0.1.1 released — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/12/28

Marvin G端lker wrote:

[#353842] Re: [ANN] au3 0.1.1 released — Marvin Gülker <sutniuq@...> 2009/12/28

Roger Pack wrote:

[#353877] Re: [ANN] au3 0.1.1 released — Edward Middleton <emiddleton@...> 2009/12/29

Marvin G端lker wrote:

[#353909] Re: au3 0.1.1 released — Marvin Gülker <sutniuq@...> 2009/12/29

Edward Middleton wrote:

[#353854] Creating my own method for sorting an array — Joe User <gctaylor2004-rubyforum@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2009/12/28

[#353856] ? about Search in google,com and Show Result — Saji Jaooon <seyyedsajjad1363@...>

hi every body

13 messages 2009/12/28

[#353872] A Ruby appliance: What would you include? — Phillip Gawlowski <pg@...>

Hello, list!

37 messages 2009/12/29
[#353923] Re: A Ruby appliance: What would you include? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2009/12/29

Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

[#353933] Re: A Ruby appliance: What would you include? — Phillip Gawlowski <pg@...> 2009/12/29

On 29.12.2009 14:25, Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#353957] Re: A Ruby appliance: What would you include? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/12/29

Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#353962] Re: A Ruby appliance: What would you include? — Phillip Gawlowski <pg@...> 2009/12/29

On 29.12.2009 17:51, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

[#353878] Using #include at the instance level? — Intransition <transfire@...>

I would like to use #include at an instance level, such that it

22 messages 2009/12/29
[#353901] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/29

2009/12/29 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:

[#353927] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2009/12/29

[#353935] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/29

2009/12/29 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:

[#353955] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2009/12/29

[#353961] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/12/29

2009/12/29 Intransition <transfire@gmail.com>:

[#353992] Re: Using #include at the instance level? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2009/12/29

[#353880] PLEASE HELP...dup is not working correctly in the following code — timr <timrandg@...>

#dup creates a copy of an object with a different object_id. As

10 messages 2009/12/29

[#354040] How to pass a function as parameter? — Fritz Trapper <ajfrenzel@...>

I want to pass a reference to function as parameter to another function

15 messages 2009/12/30
[#354042] Re: How to pass a function as parameter? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2009/12/30

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Fritz Trapper <ajfrenzel@web.de> wrote:

[#354077] Where to find a description of yaml for ruby? — Fritz Trapper <ajfrenzel@...>

Where to find a description of yaml for ruby?

12 messages 2009/12/30

[#354081] Test::unit assertion pass scenario — John Smith <ks1911shooter@...>

When using the test::unit assertion, such as assert_equal, the script

13 messages 2009/12/30

[#354098] Why can't I use "or" here? — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...>

(The problem is in both Ruby 1.8 and Ruby 1.9)

41 messages 2009/12/31
[#354106] Re: Why can't I use "or" here? — botp <botpena@...> 2009/12/31

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Albert Schlef <albertschlef@gmail.com> wrote:

[#354114] Re: Why can't I use "or" here? — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2009/12/31

botp wrote:

[#354162] Automated testing of visual library (ncurses) — "(rkumar) Sentinel" <sentinel.2001@...>

As i work more on a ncurses widget library, I am wondering how does one

10 messages 2009/12/31

[#354187] Delete elements in array, break, and keep changes? — Joe Buck <semle2000@...>

I have an array of a lot elements that I need to cluster (they are

12 messages 2009/12/31

Re: how about ruby's threads?

From: David Masover <ninja@...>
Date: 2009-12-08 21:57:29 UTC
List: ruby-talk #352329
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 02:27:31 pm Brian Candler wrote:
> Tony Arcieri wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Brian Candler <b.candler@pobox.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> When I get a few spare cycles I'm trying to hack together a
> >> ruby-flavoured erlang: just a front end which emits either the erlang
> >> abstract syntax form, or regular erlang source.
> >
> > For what it's worth, that's what Reia is already.
> 
> Reia will run on the Erlang VM but will be a
> substantially different language to Erlang: it will have destructive
> assignment, and be a lot more dynamic. Being able to compile AOT to
> .beam files is not necessarily going to be provided. Furthermore it will
> have different function call semantics,

For what it's worth, just about all of these sound like improvements to me.

The "destructive assignment" seems to come in two forms -- private variables 
can be destructively assigned, but that's a purely syntactical treatment, as 
those will (I assume) be compiled into singly-assigned Erlang variables.

Instance variables can also be destructively assigned, and that's the biggest 
difference. But they also cannot be shared between processes (that I know of), 
so they don't break the advantages of Erlang.

> What I'm toying with is just a different syntax for standard Erlang,
> which you'd compile to .beam and would be indistinguishable from Erlang
> at that level.

I should clarify, then -- while I complain about Erlang's syntax, that's not 
the only problem I have with it. I _like_ object-oriented semantics, and I 
think they'd map well onto actors, which is exactly the approach Reia is 
taking.

Think about the features that make Ruby shine. A few of those are purely 
syntactical. A few of them are based on the core idea that objects don't have 
to inherently be any particular type -- they're just entities you send 
messages to, and you don't know what response you'll get until you actually 
send the message.

This is both the core of duck typing and a fair description of Erlang 
processes. Essentially, an Erlang function that expects a process doesn't care 
what kind of process you give it, so long as that process can handle the 
messages it wants to send.

So while I can see the usefulness of pattern-matching for handling incoming 
requests, that's a bit like method_missing -- or maybe the opposite, putting 
something in front of the method calls. Still, most messages make sense 
mapping directly to method calls, and I think doing so would work well as a 
convention-over-configuration approach -- for the same reason that it makes 
sense to have URLs correspond to methods on a controller, by convention.

I guess what I'm saying is, I want to have my cake and eat it. Ruby is already 
built in such a way that it would map very naturally onto the actor model. 
Unfortunately, since that's never been tried, any attempt to do so is probably 
doomed -- there are entirely too many assumptions that code is executed 
linearly.

I'm actually trying anyway, for fun. I've been (on and off for about a year) 
writing an actor library for Ruby that actually does exactly what I'm 
describing. But it will be slow (it uses Threads and Queues) and only safe if 
you know what you're doing.

In This Thread