[#332653] Anything better than klass = eval("#{task_class}") — Paganoni <noway@...>

Hi, well subject is self explanatory...

10 messages 2009/04/01

[#332751] RubyScript2Exe — Charlie Openshaw <charlieopenshaw@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2009/04/02

[#332795] ri is suddenly empty — Fernando Perez <pedrolito@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2009/04/03

[#332861] Verify, a very basic testing tool. — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>

Hi List

34 messages 2009/04/03
[#332871] Re: [Ann] Verify, a very basic testing tool. — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2009/04/03

[#332882] Re: [Ann] Verify, a very basic testing tool. — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/04/03

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#332869] Loading classes in order — Elias Orozco <elioncho@...>

Hello guys,

17 messages 2009/04/03
[#332874] Re: Loading classes in order — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2009/04/03

El Viernes 03 Abril 2009, Elias Orozco escribi坦:

[#332983] Ruby 1.9.1 - invalid multibyte escape: /[\xC0-\xDF]/ (RegexpError) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, using TreeTop parser I had a grammar defined working in Ruby1.8 but it

12 messages 2009/04/04
[#333081] Re: Ruby 1.9.1 - invalid multibyte escape: /[\xC0-\xDF]/ (RegexpError) — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2009/04/06

[#333092] Re: Ruby 1.9.1 - invalid multibyte escape: /[\xC0-\xDF]/ (RegexpError) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2009/04/06

2009/4/6 Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net>:

[#332984] How to get "irb1.8" using Ruby1.8 instead of Ruby1.9.1 ? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, in Debian I've ruby1.8 (/usr/bin/ruby1.8) and irb1.8 installed as DEB

16 messages 2009/04/04

[#333051] Localmemcache-0.2.1: The beauty of memcached. For local data. Blazingly fast. — "Sven C. Koehler" <schween@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2009/04/05

[#333063] how to dynamically create search term for array.find_all — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

i want to be able to create a mehtod that will filter results in an

13 messages 2009/04/06
[#333064] Re: how to dynamically create search term for array.find_all — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/06

Adam Akhtar wrote:

[#333108] Re: how to dynamically create search term for array.find_all — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...> 2009/04/06

Thanks for your advice.

[#333109] Re: how to dynamically create search term for array.find_all — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...> 2009/04/06

ahh robert, sorry i missed your reply there, i was looking at

[#333206] regex select multiple words in the middle of a sentence — Raimon Fs <coder@...>

hello,

11 messages 2009/04/07

[#333231] How to remote connect to the SQL server 2005 when there is a ‘\’ in the SQL server name, such as 192.168.0.11\active? — Wesley Chen <cjq.999@...>

Hi, Guys,

10 messages 2009/04/07
[#333246] Re: How to remote connect to the SQL server 2005 when there is a ‘\’ in the SQL server name, such as 192.168.0.11\active? — "Sean O'Halpin" <sean.ohalpin@...> 2009/04/07

(Disclaimer: It's a while since I did anything with SQL Server)

[#333265] Re: How to remote connect to the SQL server 2005 when there is a ‘\’ in the SQL server name, such as 192.168.0.11\active? — Wesley Chen <cjq.999@...> 2009/04/08

Hi, Sean,

[#333275] Re: How to remote connect to the SQL server 2005 when there is a ‘\’ in the SQL server name, such as 192.168.0.11\active? — "Sean O'Halpin" <sean.ohalpin@...> 2009/04/08

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Wesley Chen <cjq.999@gmail.com> wrote:

[#333273] Ruby 1.9 still cannot list all files on Vista or XP? — SpringFlowers AutumnMoon <summercoolness@...>

I just tried using Ruby 1.9 and it seemed that it still cannot list all

18 messages 2009/04/08

[#333291] How to find Operating system — Newb Newb <revathy.p@...>

Hi....

19 messages 2009/04/08
[#333299] Re: How to find Operating system — Mark S Bilk <mark@...> 2009/04/08

On Apr 8, 4:27m, Eleanor McHugh <elea...@games-with-brains.com>

[#333309] Re: How to find Operating system — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/04/08

On 8 Apr 2009, at 13:30, Mark S Bilk wrote:

[#333311] performing an action only the first time a function called — James French <James.French@...> 2009/04/08

Hi,

[#333319] Ruby editor for linux — Juan Zanos <juan_zanos@...>

Does anyone have any suggestions for a Ruby editor on Linux? I

31 messages 2009/04/08

[#333368] Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Christophe Mckeon <chromatophore@...>

Hello Fellow Humans,

170 messages 2009/04/08
[#333440] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — The Higgs bozo <higgs.bozo@...> 2009/04/09

Christophe Mckeon wrote:

[#333443] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/09

The Higgs bozo wrote:

[#333455] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/09

>> Am I the only one who, upon reading the subject line, thought that

[#333468] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Christophe Mckeon <chromatophore@...> 2009/04/09

Hi guys,

[#333542] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Jeff Schwab <jeff@...> 2009/04/10

Christophe Mckeon wrote:

[#333580] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/04/10

> Christophe Mckeon wrote:

[#333602] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2009/04/11

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:22:09AM +0900, Eleanor McHugh wrote:

[#333615] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/04/11

On 11 Apr 2009, at 02:12, Chad Perrin wrote:

[#333626] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/04/11

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Eleanor McHugh

[#333657] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2009/04/12

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:53:07AM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:

[#333783] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/04/13

On 12 Apr 2009, at 06:36, Chad Perrin wrote:

[#334172] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...> 2009/04/16

Eleanor McHugh wrote:

[#334187] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Chad Perrin <perrin@...> 2009/04/16

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 05:58:21AM +0900, Tom Cloyd wrote:

[#334191] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — Todd Benson <caduceass@...> 2009/04/17

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:

[#334284] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — "Phlip" <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/18

> And besides, who are we kidding thinking that the planet needs us?

[#334334] Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth — "Phlip" <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/18

> Now, do I believe the earth's climate is changing? Absolutely. It has

[#333521] how do you manage your gems' gemspecs? — ghorner <gabriel.horner@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2009/04/10

[#333546] Python on LLVM — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

Python on LLVM. Thought it might be interesting to some folks here:

17 messages 2009/04/10

[#333607] a few thoughts for ruby... — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Thought I'd pass these thoughts by the readers here before sending them

23 messages 2009/04/11

[#333624] Can Ruby stay ahead ? — Suresh Kk <sureshkkgvr@...>

Will Ruby find it difficult to stay in the first 10 languages list

27 messages 2009/04/11
[#333636] Re: Can Ruby stay ahead ? — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2009/04/11

To be honest, I think the most important thing Rubyists could do to help

[#333707] newbie confusion and dejection — Reg <reg@...>

Over the years I have taught myself to program in C, C++, and VB to

14 messages 2009/04/13

[#333736] Ruby vs. Groovy: your perspective — Diego Virasoro <Diego.Virasoro@...>

Hello,

45 messages 2009/04/13
[#333789] Re: Ruby vs. Groovy: your perspective — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2009/04/13

On 13 Apr 2009, at 12:35, Diego Virasoro wrote:

[#333803] Re: Ruby vs. Groovy: your perspective — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2009/04/13

Eleanor McHugh wrote:

[#333833] Re: Ruby vs. Groovy: your perspective — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2009/04/14

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#333742] connecting to Oracle using OCI8 and DBI — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2009/04/13

[#333867] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...>

Hi folks,

30 messages 2009/04/14
[#333885] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — James Gray <james@...> 2009/04/14

On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Gregory Brown wrote:

[#333894] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/04/14

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#333899] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2009/04/14

[#333900] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/04/14

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@mac.com> wrote:

[#333901] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Ben Lovell <benjamin.lovell@...> 2009/04/14

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com>wrote:

[#333904] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/04/14

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Ben Lovell <benjamin.lovell@gmail.com>wrote:

[#333912] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/04/14

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Tony Arcieri <tony@medioh.com> wrote:

[#334011] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Michael Fellinger <m.fellinger@...> 2009/04/15

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:48:42 +0900

[#334014] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/04/15

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Michael Fellinger

[#334020] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/04/15

On 15.04.2009 17:46, Gregory Brown wrote:

[#334086] Re: [ANN] The "Ruby Best Practices" Collaborative Blog — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/04/16

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert Klemme

[#333981] Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...>

Hello everybody !

23 messages 2009/04/15
[#334010] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/04/15

[#334013] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...> 2009/04/15

Roger Pack wrote:

[#334426] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/04/20

Alexandre Stehlin wrote:

[#334430] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...> 2009/04/20

Roger Pack wrote:

[#334465] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/04/20

[#334469] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...> 2009/04/20

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#334631] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...> 2009/04/22

Glen Holcomb wrote:

[#334640] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/04/22

[#334644] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...> 2009/04/22

Ok, here's what I got :

[#334648] Re: Install a Windows server made with Ruby — Alexandre Stehlin <alexandre.stehlin@...> 2009/04/22

Alexandre Stehlin wrote:

[#333993] reformatting a text file that has some binary in it — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

I have never worked with binary before and after trying to solve this

20 messages 2009/04/15
[#334768] Re: reformatting a text file that has some binary in it — "t3ch.dude" <t3ch.dude@...> 2009/04/23

On Apr 23, 5:05m, Adam Akhtar <adamtempor...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#334834] Re: reformatting a text file that has some binary in it — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...> 2009/04/23

ahh should have thought about that. here is a souce file

[#334063] http://rubypan.org/ — Aaron Patterson <aaron@...>

http://rubypan.org/ version 1.0.0 has been released!

16 messages 2009/04/16

[#334194] Localmemcache-0.3.0: A persistent key-value database based on mmap()'ed shared memory — "Sven C. Koehler" <schween@...>

Hi, Localmemcache-0.3.0 is ready! Persistence is officially supported

9 messages 2009/04/17

[#334272] Junctions for Ruby1.9 (Lab419::functional-0.1.2) — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>

Hi list

14 messages 2009/04/17

[#334370] ruby1.9 and the retry keyword — Yoann Guillot <john-rubytalk@...>

Hi

12 messages 2009/04/19

[#334479] Polymorphism — Michael Satterwhite <michael@...>

As much as I like Ruby, I do miss the polymorphic behavior of routines

14 messages 2009/04/20
[#334480] Re: Polymorphism — Phlip <phlip2005@...> 2009/04/20

Michael Satterwhite wrote:

[#334510] directory watcher, trying to match filename to directory name. — Brian Wallace <draygen80@...>

Hi All,

12 messages 2009/04/21
[#334515] Re: directory watcher, trying to match filename to directory name. — David Gaya <david.gaya@...> 2009/04/21

> dw = DirectoryWatcher.new "#{@dirwatch}", :interval => 5, :glob => "*/*", :pre_load => true

[#334524] Re: directory watcher, trying to match filename to directory name. — Brian Wallace <draygen80@...> 2009/04/21

Thanks David,

[#334537] Re: directory watcher, trying to match filename to directory name. — Tim Pease <tim.pease@...> 2009/04/21

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Brian Wallace <draygen80@gmail.com> wrote:

[#334529] Ruby or JRuby — Martin L'ecuyer <martin@...>

Hi i'm new here and new with Ruby. I just start to learn Ruby and Ruby

19 messages 2009/04/21
[#334531] Re: Ruby or JRuby — James Herdman <james.herdman@...> 2009/04/21

Hi Martin.

[#334532] Re: Ruby or JRuby — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/04/21

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:39 PM, James Herdman <james.herdman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#334696] Re: Ruby or JRuby — David Masover <ninja@...> 2009/04/22

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 09:48:47 Robert Dober wrote:

[#334710] Re: Ruby or JRuby — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/04/22

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:43 PM, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> wrote:

[#334551] Is there a better way to do this? — Paul Mckibbin <pmckibbin@...>

I recently had code which needed to work with the same structure twice,

11 messages 2009/04/21

[#334577] Can't install hpricot gem — Boris Barroso <boriscyber@...>

I can't install hpricot gem on CentOS 5, you can check the error message

13 messages 2009/04/21

[#334711] Diamondback Ruby - Static Typing for Ruby — Mike Furr <furr@...>

16 messages 2009/04/22

[#334826] Is there a better way of doing this — Damjan Rems <d_rems@...>

I have three classes.

17 messages 2009/04/23

[#334944] Digits of Pi (#202) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

26 messages 2009/04/24
[#334948] Re: [QUIZ] Digits of Pi (#202) — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2009/04/24

Daniel Moore wrote:

[#334986] Methods and blocks - not that clear when blocks passed into — Steven Taylor <staylor@...>

Coming from other programming languages, notably Basic based, a little

10 messages 2009/04/25

[#335047] Using method missing to create getters and setters — Tim Conner <crofty_james@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2009/04/26

[#335060] How to parse a "line"? — Martin Sharon <huangshuo.9@...>

Hi there:

25 messages 2009/04/26
[#335061] Re: How to parse a "line"? — James Gray <james@...> 2009/04/26

On Apr 26, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Martin Sharon wrote:

[#335062] Re: How to parse a "line"? — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/04/26

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:56 PM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#335069] Re: How to parse a "line"? — Todd Benson <caduceass@...> 2009/04/26

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#335070] Re: How to parse a "line"? — Todd Benson <caduceass@...> 2009/04/26

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Todd Benson <caduceass@gmail.com> wrote:

[#335071] Re: How to parse a "line"? — Martin Sharon <huangshuo.9@...> 2009/04/27

Thank you Todd, but the number of the keywords are dynamic.

[#335085] Re: How to parse a "line"? — Todd Benson <caduceass@...> 2009/04/27

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Martin Sharon <huangshuo.9@gmail.com> wrote:

[#335068] Block Style — James Gray <james@...>

I hate to be the guy to start another { } vs. do end thread, but I

16 messages 2009/04/26

[#335151] Gui library suggestion based on my needs? — Pito Salas <rps@...>

Any recommendation on which 'gui' package I should use to build a ruby

14 messages 2009/04/27

[#335217] Why does attr_accessor in module require 'self.'? — Brian Hartin <brian.hartin@...>

Hi there,

14 messages 2009/04/27

[#335301] Detecting -0.0 — "Thomas B." <tpreal@...>

Hello.

19 messages 2009/04/28

[#335308] Random Access using IO#pos in code blocks — Arun Kumar <arun.einstein@...>

Hello everyone,

14 messages 2009/04/28
[#335369] Re: Random Access using IO#pos in code blocks — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/04/29

Arun Kumar wrote:

[#335331] New to Ruby, making a program from a disabled friend — Hank Quinlan <tjmaser@...>

Hi. I am only learning Ruby to help my friend out, and am completely new

15 messages 2009/04/29

[#335334] Issue with regexp pattern matcher withing String#gsub — Craig Jolicoeur <cpjolicoeur@...>

I'm having a strange issue I can't wrap my head around. I've posted the

10 messages 2009/04/29

[#335466] Read and re-write file with one open? — Adam Bender <abender@...>

I would like to write a Ruby script that opens a text file, performs a gsub

19 messages 2009/04/30

[#335532] setting up cygwin on windows or linux it? — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Due to some gems not working for windows im considering either

19 messages 2009/04/30
[#335542] Re: setting up cygwin on windows or linux it? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2009/04/30

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@gmail.com> wrote:

[#335563] Re: setting up cygwin on windows or linux it? — Aleksandr Levchuk <alevchuk@...> 2009/04/30

Usually virtualization (VMWare, etc.) is too slow to use. I would

Re: Goodbye Ruby - Hello Earth

From: Christophe Mckeon <chromatophore@...>
Date: 2009-04-23 14:57:59 UTC
List: ruby-talk #334789
ok, somebody got pretty peeved at me and listed my IP with spambag.org 
which is a pretty funny name for an RBL, however i am not a spambag, and 
consider that to be fairly low blow (although harmless as i can easily 
change my IP), when i am hardly the only poster on this very lively 
thread, and had no warning. btw one person in private correspondence has 
indicated to me a major change in the direction of their lives, so it 
may not be as OT as is assumed. in any case this is 100% the last 
message from me on this thread, i promise. so if you argue further you 
will just be aggravating an itch i won't be able to scratch :)

> Phlip wrote

> For every civilization that failed, it grew at a sustainable rate until 
> it created a positive population effluence. 

so you are saying that population is a problem? if so then we are in
agreement.

> And every one of those failures happened because of a change in the 
> climate.

again, climate is one of the forces i was talking about. but that misses
the point. it is not change in climate that kills off civilizations, it
is how resilient their agricultural systems are when the climate happens 
to
change. deforestation & monoculture lead to salinity, poor water
retention, localized draught, desertification, soil erosion, ecological
poverty, etc...

> Rome collapsed not because of overpopulation or high taxes or 
> Christianity
> or any historical revisionism like that; it collapsed because a volcano 
> in
> the India Ocean created a series of long winters. The global 
> agricultural
> bases collapsed.

of course rome collapsed over a long period of time, hundreds of years
in fact, there were volcanic eruptions, barbarian invasions, etc...
it did not do so within the course of a few bad winters, that's just bad 
history.

in fact soil erosion and infertile land was one of the major forces in
the demise of rome. at the start of the empire farming was respected and 
even noblemen were proud to be farmers. farms were small about 2-5 acres 
and proper
husbandry was taken seriously. even with small scale careful farming
practices however erosion was already a problem sometimes even causing
outbreaks of diseases due to clogged waterways.

by the end of the empire as it descended into decadence, the farms had 
become huge slave labour driven monstrosities which tried to squeeze 
every last drop of cash out of the land disregarding proper husbandry 
and soil fertility was severely affected. small scale farmers were 
driven off their land and a few city-dwelling fat cats made all the 
profits at the expense of everyone else and the health of the land 
(sounds familiar). rome had lost her main source of energy, her 
agriculture, and hence her resilience against the volcanoes, the 
droughts, etc...

if you want to truly understand what you are talking about i suggest
reading the book 'dirt, the erosion of civilizations'.

> Historically, civilizations did not collapse because they despoiled 
> their
> environments. That's a relatively new phenomenon.

nonsense. soil erosion due to agriculture has been a major detriment
to the health of civilizations since the bronze ages. soil erosion from
bronze age agriculture was even correctly identified by aristotle,
almost 3000 years after the fact, and of course 2000+ years ago.

an example of deforestation as recorded in ancient literature can be 
found in the epic of gilgamesh where he cuts down wood from the cedar 
forests of iraq.
that story is almost 5000 years old. when's the last time you saw cedar 
forests in iraq?

> Oh, and the Inka civilization in the Andes collapsed from a smallpox
> plague...

yes the incas were destroyed by european diseases amongst other causes
largely brought on by europe. europe was of course plundering away in 
the search for resources.

> Jon A. Lambert wrote

> ... find 400 species of critters, they maintain 800 species have gone 
> extinct. I simplify, but not by much.

the problem is that all the land is being cleared. so in you opinion, 
where did the critters run, mars?

> Look I'm a conservationist, a bird watcher, and a nature lover as well.  

right, well in my brainwashed state, call it misguided humility if you 
will, i'll go with the *majority* opinion of biologists and their 
collective junk science, thanks, and if i want to build a nuclear 
missile i'll speak to some PHDs in physics, not my local model rocket 
club.









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