[#285488] Zed Shaw - Ruby has dodged a bullet — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

Much like watching a car accident in slow motion, I could scarcely

96 messages 2008/01/01

[#285678] Windows Compilation Madness — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...>

No point in keeping this discussion in the Zed thread...

24 messages 2008/01/02

[#285742] change the symbol in an interpolated string value? — scooterm@...

PROBLEM:

11 messages 2008/01/03

[#285784] Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Tom Cloyd <tc@...>

I've migrated from WinXP in recent days, and I'm having trouble getting

19 messages 2008/01/03
[#285786] Re: Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Casimir <pikEISPAMMMseli@...> 2008/01/03

Tom Cloyd kirjoitti:

[#285792] Re: Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Peter Hickman <peter@...> 2008/01/03

Casimir I'm going to have to call you on this. As you may have just

[#285838] "wrong number of arguments" What? I must be thick or somethi — ole __ <oliver.saunders@...>

class PermutationIterator

10 messages 2008/01/03

[#285873] Time.gm(1969) chokes on Windows — Tim Ferrell <s0nspark@...>

18 messages 2008/01/03

[#285910] Get your hands dirty: Help bootstrap Ruby on Windows. — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>

This was asked, and asked, and asked too many times, so here we go.

20 messages 2008/01/03

[#285951] Finding if an array contains a data type — Sam Phoneix <dominicjefferies@...>

Say I wanted to see if an array contained a number or not. Would I use

11 messages 2008/01/04

[#285981] How to put a Ruby website online without rails — Softmind Technology <softmindtechnology@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2008/01/04
[#286230] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/01/05

Giles Bowkett wrote:

[#286252] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — yudi <yudi.xue@...> 2008/01/05

Ramaze looks good, gotta take a look. Thanks :-)

[#286449] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — James Dinkel <jdinkel@...> 2008/01/07

Here is a forum post that tells you how to embed ruby script into

[#285988] problem with sockets — ian@...

Hi

13 messages 2008/01/04

[#286012] Studying Blackjack (#151) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

42 messages 2008/01/04

[#286056] Re: zed shaw zed shaw zed shaw — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

On Jan 4, 2008 11:52 AM, Jeremy McAnally <jeremymcanally@gmail.com> wrote:

16 messages 2008/01/04

[#286077] DBI doesn't seem to install correctly on CentOS — Xeno Campanoli <xcampanoli@...>

I tried installing with the old tarfile sequence using setup.rb, as I

14 messages 2008/01/04
[#286079] Re: DBI doesn't seem to install correctly on CentOS — Joshua Schairbaum <joshua.schairbaum@...> 2008/01/04

Try this to use DBI with MySQL:

[#286120] Best Ruby book for experienced programmer — Kamil Chmielewski <kamilski81@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2008/01/04

[#286221] Vintage 0.0.1 - The super slim, micro web framework based on the idea of the old Merb — "Jeremy McAnally" <jeremymcanally@...>

Vintage is a very small web framework based on the original idea of

23 messages 2008/01/05
[#286346] Re: [ANN] Vintage 0.0.1 - The super slim, micro web framework based on the idea of the old Merb — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/01/06

[#286273] Marshal Pipe — "Carlos J. Hernandez" <carlosjhr64@...>

I've just re-discovered pipes.

16 messages 2008/01/05
[#286515] Re: Marshal Pipe — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/01/07

On Jan 5, 2008, at 15:37 PM, Carlos J. Hernandez wrote:

[#286374] DateTime new_offset unexpected results — Greg Go <plant@...>

Hello, everybody:

13 messages 2008/01/06
[#286484] Re: DateTime new_offset unexpected results — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/01/07

On Jan 6, 2008 2:04 PM, Greg Go <plant@ultraspace.com> wrote:

[#286375] Ruby's Kernel::exec (and system and %x) — JJ <jjnoakes@...>

I was reading about Kernel::exec (and the related Kernel::system

29 messages 2008/01/06

[#286473] Where do I put the ".to_f" ? — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2008/01/07

[#286493] Bacon 0.9, a small RSpec clone — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2008/01/07

[#286508] Embedding 1.9 — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

Folks:

18 messages 2008/01/07

[#286558] Thin 0.5.1 LOLCAT released — Marc-andre Marc <macournoyer@...>

Hey all,

13 messages 2008/01/08

[#286656] JRuby 1.1 RC 1 Released — Thomas Enebo <Thomas.Enebo@...>

The JRuby community is pleased to announce the release of JRuby 1.1 RC 1

19 messages 2008/01/08
[#286710] Re: [ANN] JRuby 1.1 RC 1 Released — "Sander Land" <sander.land@...> 2008/01/08

With all the blog posts about JRuby being posted, I thought I would

[#286696] dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...>

Why is ruby's core class Time acting like this:

21 messages 2008/01/08
[#286701] Re: dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/08

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#286702] Re: dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/08

Suraj Kurapati wrote:

[#286717] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...> 2008/01/09

Suraj Kurapati wrote:

[#287161] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/12

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#287217] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...> 2008/01/12

Pls let me assure you in the beginning of this note,

[#287219] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/12

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#287344] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/01/14

Hi,

[#286742] why does this code leak? — ara howard <ara.t.howard@...>

cfp2:~ > cat a.rb

35 messages 2008/01/09
[#286991] Re: why does this code leak? — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/10

On Jan 10, 2008 10:15 PM, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287063] Here Document syntax is stringent - trailing blank — Todd Burch <promos@...>

text = <<EOD

12 messages 2008/01/11

[#287067] Need command line to run a file 4 times — jackster the jackle <contact@...>

Hi Ruby Forum...

13 messages 2008/01/11
[#287074] Re: Need command line to run a file 4 times — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2008/01/11

On Jan 11, 2008, at 2:47 PM, jackster the jackle wrote:

[#287080] Counting the files in a directory.... — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...>

I'm writing some scripts to help manage a mail scanner used at my

18 messages 2008/01/11

[#287095] IRB Keyboard Input Issues — Oliver Saunders <oliver.saunders@...>

When I press the up arrow in IRB to access history I see this:

13 messages 2008/01/11

[#287188] Stream Parsing with REXML — Marc Hoeppner <marc.hoeppner@...>

Hi (again, sort of) :)

13 messages 2008/01/12

[#287190] Callable class with block — blondinet <jblondinet@...>

Hi everyone,

12 messages 2008/01/12

[#287199] Re: gem build documentation for new gems? — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

On Jan 12, 2008, at 07:57 AM, Giles Bowkett wrote:

11 messages 2008/01/12

[#287226] Ruby from source on Leopard excruciatingly slow internet talk — "Chris Shea" <chris@...>

Just a couple of days ago I "upgraded" from Tiger to Leopard, and the

19 messages 2008/01/13

[#287282] regualr expression (need help) — Heinrich Piard <linux@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/01/13

[#287368] regular expression — Johnathan Smith <stu_09@...>

hey

15 messages 2008/01/14
[#287371] Re: regular expression — "Robert Klemme" <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/14

2008/1/14, Johnathan Smith <stu_09@hotmail.com>:

[#287414] any tricks to speed up ruby? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

31 messages 2008/01/14
[#287423] Re: any tricks to speed up ruby? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/01/14

Roger Pack wrote:

[#287583] Re: any tricks to speed up ruby? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/01/16

James Britt wrote:

[#287525] Overridding A Method Via A Mixin — Andrew Stewart <boss@...>

Hi Everyone,

17 messages 2008/01/15
[#287526] Re: Overridding A Method Via A Mixin — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/15

On 15.01.2008 18:32, Andrew Stewart wrote:

[#287666] ruby annoyances ... mine is line continuation, what's yours? — "scooterm@..." <scooterm@...>

Just thinking how really smart Ruby is in most areas makes it all the

11 messages 2008/01/16

[#287720] FXRuby or Shoes? — Doug Livesey <biot023@...>

Sorry I've posted this in the generic Ruby thread, but I wanted as

14 messages 2008/01/17

[#287735] LDAP Server not connected error — Varun Goel <varun.rajeshkumar@...>

hi all i made authentication function like this

12 messages 2008/01/17
[#287752] Re: LDAP Server not connected error — "Matt Todd" <chiology@...> 2008/01/17

Pluck out the actual LDAP code into IRB and see if it works. I've not

[#287757] Ruby syntax in "respond_to do |format| line -- can clarify? — Joshua Beall <jbeall.ruby@...>

Hi All,

12 messages 2008/01/17

[#287819] passing method references in python & ruby — "rpardee@..." <rpardee@...>

Hey all,

21 messages 2008/01/18
[#287897] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — "rpardee@..." <rpardee@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 17, 8:12 pm, Justin Collins <justincoll...@ucla.edu> wrote:

[#287914] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/18

In python when you use method name without parenthesises you get

[#287917] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Justin Collins <justincollins@...> 2008/01/18

Rados梶w Buウat wrote:

[#287989] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/19

On 18.01.2008 20:11, Justin Collins wrote:

[#288034] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Justin Collins <justincollins@...> 2008/01/19

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#287869] Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

62 messages 2008/01/18
[#287931] Re: Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — yermej <yermej@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 18, 2:38 pm, Ken Bloom <kbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287932] Re: Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 18, 2008 10:00 PM, yermej <yermej@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287895] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Marc-AndrCournoyer <macournoyer@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2008/01/18
[#287962] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

This has been working so well on my Mac dev machine, I built it out on

[#287973] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2008/01/19

[#287984] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

Got it up and running ... for a while. It's running as root/root and

[#287999] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Marc-AndrCournoyer <macournoyer@...> 2008/01/19

Thin runs in a single thread, no need for a mutex there.

[#287953] Looking for code to determine length of audio files — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

I'm working on a project which has the requirement to automatically

11 messages 2008/01/19

[#287971] Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

Hello everyone,

22 messages 2008/01/19
[#287976] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Hassan Schroeder" <hassan.schroeder@...> 2008/01/19

On Jan 18, 2008 8:37 PM, Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@verizon.net> wrote:

[#287978] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

She can't find the run file.

[#287979] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Hassan Schroeder" <hassan.schroeder@...> 2008/01/19

On Jan 18, 2008 9:25 PM, Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@verizon.net> wrote:

[#287980] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#287985] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

[#288000] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Okay, we've got programs running!

[#288008] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Windham, Kristopher R." <kriswindham@...> 2008/01/19

not sure what you are trying to do there..

[#288009] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Well, I'm using it with arrays, here's a clip of the code that I'm

[#288133] Announcing Revactor: an Actor model implementation for Ruby 1.9 — "Tony Arcieri" <tony@...>

I'm pleased to announce the initial public availability of Revactor, an

25 messages 2008/01/21

[#288258] why must I initialize this variable? — matt@... (matt neuburg)

Here's a simple variable initialization / scope question. In the

14 messages 2008/01/22

[#288290] Determine where a method is being called from? — Ben Johnson <bjohnson@...>

Is it possible to determine if a public instance method is being called

11 messages 2008/01/22

[#288303] How to improve this code? — Jair Rillo Junior <jrjuniorsp@...>

Hi guys,

16 messages 2008/01/23

[#288308] Learning to build a MUD — Sean Dolbec <helbuns@...>

13 messages 2008/01/23

[#288348] Parsing HTML / following links etc — Dan Cuddeford <dancudds@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2008/01/23

[#288391] Scripts run using load in "for" loop run out of order — Fa Sidd <siddiqifh@...>

Hi

13 messages 2008/01/23

[#288626] Making Change (#154) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

106 messages 2008/01/25
[#288653] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — Dominik Honnef <dominikho@...> 2008/01/25

On [Sat, 26.01.2008 00:50], Ruby Quiz wrote:

[#288656] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — "Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣" <jgabrielygalan@...> 2008/01/25

On Jan 25, 2008 9:53 PM, Dominik Honnef <dominikho@gmx.net> wrote:

[#288658] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/25

On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 wrote:

[#288692] regular expression negate a word (not character) — Summercool <Summercoolness@...>

24 messages 2008/01/26

[#288773] Extracting Data from a Webpage — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

Hello everyone.

17 messages 2008/01/27

[#288847] Treetop parser (or PEG in general?) questions — Phrogz <phrogz@...>

I've been looking for something like treetop for a while now. Very

19 messages 2008/01/28

[#288916] Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...>

As most of you know, we have two Ruby Quiz problems left (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/6f46393932c22e49

32 messages 2008/01/28
[#288978] Re: Final Two Quizzes — fedzor <fedzor@...> 2008/01/28

[#288980] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/28

On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, fedzor wrote:

[#289016] Re: Final Two Quizzes — fedzor <fedzor@...> 2008/01/29

[#289026] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/29

On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:33 AM, fedzor wrote:

[#289048] Re: Final Two Quizzes — "Thomas Wieczorek" <wieczo.yo@...> 2008/01/29

Thank you for the many quizzes. I came to Ruby through a blog entry

[#289051] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/29

On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Thomas Wieczorek wrote:

[#289057] Re: Final Two Quizzes — Dominik Honnef <dominikho@...> 2008/01/29

On [Wed, 30.01.2008 06:34], James Gray wrote:

[#288973] Treetop Email Parser — Phrogz <phrogz@...>

(I would post this to the treetop mailing list...except there doesn't

14 messages 2008/01/28

[#289018] Proposal/RFQ: Hash#values/keys with block — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

10 messages 2008/01/29

[#289046] newbie file write problem — Lars Zeb <larzeb@...>

This is my first attempt at ruby. I've written a class (SicCode) which

15 messages 2008/01/29

[#289060] For Loop question — Mark Mr <pimea.mark@...>

ok basically i cant quite figure out how to do a for loop i want in

13 messages 2008/01/29

[#289196] counting the number of repititions in an array — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi if i want to count the number of times values are repeated in an

10 messages 2008/01/30

[#289206] Ruby Puzzle Challenge — Wyatt Greene <greenewm@...>

Write a Ruby program that prints out the numbers 1 to 100, one number

14 messages 2008/01/30

[#289210] Learn how to program — "Regnum@... Regnum@..." <regnum@...>

Hi!, i want to learn how to program.Is ruby a good option?. Thanks.

30 messages 2008/01/30
[#289351] Re: Learn how to program — longint <michael.mello@...> 2008/01/31

On Jan 30, 4:30m, "Reg...@argentina.com Reg...@argentina.com"

[#289401] Re: Learn how to program — "Michael Bevilacqua-Linn" <michael.bevilacqualinn@...> 2008/02/01

IMHO,

[#289286] can ik make this more beautifull? — Remco Hh <remco@...>

nowadays i try to improve my coding style to produce nicer and beter

17 messages 2008/01/31

[#289355] Gedankenexperiment on method duck type safety — Tim Connor <timocratic@...>

*braces for the flames to follow*

13 messages 2008/01/31

[#289364] GUI for a newbie — Matthew Borgeson <hibridmatthias@...>

Hello All-

28 messages 2008/01/31

[#289375] how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2008/01/31
[#289378] Re: how do you install a local gem? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2008/01/31

Alle Thursday 31 January 2008, 7stud -- ha scritto:

[#289386] Re: how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/01/31

Stefano Crocco wrote:

[#289388] Re: how do you install a local gem? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2008/01/31

Alle Thursday 31 January 2008, 7stud -- ha scritto:

[#289398] Re: how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/01

Stefano Crocco wrote:

Re: Windows Compilation Madness

From: James Tucker <jftucker@...>
Date: 2008-01-03 22:00:34 UTC
List: ruby-talk #285930
On 3 Jan 2008, at 17:04, Gary Wright wrote:

>
> On Jan 3, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Luis Lavena wrote:
>> For me too, but every time I sent a message to get feedback, three
>> things happen:
>>
>> A) don't get any reply (quite common)
>> B) "move to a real OS" not so funny comments wasting part of my time
>> invested (free) on ruby.
>> C) another long thread like this with all the problems windows users
>> face, the C-lib (MSVCRT) and all that, all over again.
>
> I'm not a Windows programmer and I didn't really want to cause a  
> rehash of all the discussion, I've seen before.  I was just trying  
> to get the 'big picture' to understand why Windows is so problematic  
> in this area.

No problem, Luis started a thread to discuss the other areas, and I'll  
be joining that more actively when I have access to my windows build  
chain tools.

> Another attempt at a big picture summary:
>
> *nix Binary Distribution
>  -- limited to enclaves (Solaris, MacOSX, Linux) and has all
>     the same library version problems as with Windows but on any
>     particular platform there is more continuity between different
>     libc versions and only a single prevalent compiler avoiding
>     various object code linkage problems.
>
>
> Windows Binary Distribution
>  -- same situation as Unix but the enclaves are Windows variations
>     of NT, XP, Vista *and* all the different compiler/object code
>     incarnations. Less common ground to work with. The CLR
>     is yet another windows binary context to be considered.

Well, there's plenty of common ground to work with, actually, and they  
are strongly versioned too. The problem comes later...

> *nix Source Distribution
>  -- standards and common build-chains makes source code
>     and build processes compatible across wide variety of
>     systems.  Complex packages composed of components from
>     multiple 3rd parties can be compiled and linked via the
>     same 'common' build-tool chain (because there is only one
>     per platform).  I realize that autoconf is hideous
>     but it is one of the reasons for the broad source code
>     compatibility across *nix platforms.

Indeed. And more than that, it's normally the distro package  
maintainers that do any hard work for you.

> Windows Source Distribution
>  -- lack of prevalent compiler and common build-chains makes it
>     difficult to author and distribute a source code package
>     that builds and installs correctly in all the different
>     Windows environments

No. The build scripts themselves, are ok. The backing toolchains are  
an issue.

There are plenty of prevalent compilers, but there are more options  
than on *nix, and the options have more differences.

The core of ruby (i.e. excluding the ext/* stuff) builds just fine  
with a normal configure and parse.c pre-built, and compiles just fine  
under mingw, and all of the MS compilers. All of them.

>
>
>  -- the lack of a common build-chain means that it can be
>     very difficult to mix-and-match 3rd party source distributions,
>     which is a much rarer problem in *nix environments.

Source distributions are fine. Again, it's purely a tool chain and  
version linkage issue. If a build chain was easy to setup, people  
wouldn't find it too hard to understand they need one of three  
different binary versions if using pre-built packages, that is, one of  
the three different C runtimes that are prevalent. That part of the  
issue, I honestly believe, people could deal with. Also, it's  
borderline irrelevant for software that doesn't pass around data  
structures from one runtime to the next, without altering the data  
structures ABI.

> It seems like the nut to crack is the build-chain environment
> in Windows.  If the build-chain isn't predictable then it is
> going to be pretty hard to avoid an n*m amount of work to get
> arbitrary collection of n-packages to work together in m different
> Windows environments.

It is the build chain that we need to fix.

It's not that many different environments. All of the MS compilers  
(for most all of the ruby related software), are actually pretty  
identical in terms of the build-time usage. That is, the same command  
line works for all of the MS compilers.

MinGW is different, but it's also important as it's the only legal,  
currently available compiler that's compatible with VS 6 and the  
MSVCRT ("current" runtime).

>
>
> James Tucker wrote:
>> Personally, I think the important first stage is to release an  
>> automated build-chain build-chain. Once we can automate the whole  
>> stack, we can release it at several independent levels of  
>> compilation.
>
>
> Sounds like the right place to focus developer energy.  Also
> seems like that a Ruby/Rake combo that could be built with
> an absolute minimum of external dependencies would be a great
> tool for bootstrapping a full-featured build-chain.

Right.

> Here is a really crazy idea.  Instead of trying to construct
> a build environment on each and every Windows box what if the
> build environment was available via the Internet?  So a small
> tool would query the local system and then instruct a remote
> system to build the appropriate dlls/applications for the local
> machine.  Lots of security implications since you would have
> to trust the code that was being delivered by the remote
> build tool but of course if you are downloading and installing
> a build-tool environment you are *already* extending trust to
> the provider of the build-tool.

I've been thinking about it, but more importantly, something like a  
gem build server for building native gems is the first step to *that*  
side of it. I'll be working more on this idea in February, as my  
company needs something better than my nasty scripts. This will ofc be  
released when ready.

What we may want to do (and probably will) is to provide the necessary  
pieces to service as a pre-compiled build environment which was built  
under the same environment it targets. That is, three or four  
different standard binary build sets, for each of the prevalent  
compilers. When separated from the rest of the stdlib, and compressed,  
this isn't too huge either - I might even be able to front the  
bandwidth if we can't do it sanely on rubyforge. I still need to get  
into those discussions with the rubygems team, and possibly much later  
on Tom Copeland. For the moment, I have much more work to do prior to  
that.

> Same idea could be done in the Unix context.

Absolutely, I have no intention of locking this to a single context at  
all, or hardcoding like GnuWin32 does.

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