[#217504] is a timepoint DSL possible, like: 10:31 instead of "10:29"? — "Dirk Lüsebrink" <ruby-forum@...>

i could not think of any way to include the ':' character in a DSL, so

11 messages 2006/10/01

[#217603] Why can't I get on Top? — "Trans" <transfire@...>

More Toplevel blow:

17 messages 2006/10/02

[#217634] Creating modules — benjohn@...

21 messages 2006/10/02
[#217643] Re: Creating modules — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/10/02

benjohn@fysh.org wrote:

[#217651] Re: Creating modules — benjohn@... 2006/10/02

I wrote before about the modules I'm trying to build on the fly. I'm

[#217656] Creating dynamically named singleton methods. Syntax question. — "Luke Stark" <Luke.Stark@...> 2006/10/02

You may create singleton methods like so:

[#217700] Special variable within iterators to hold results? — Wes Gamble <weyus@...>

I have this:

11 messages 2006/10/02

[#217783] JRuby scripting for Mozilla? — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

Given that JRuby runs on Java, and Java can, I believe be used to script

12 messages 2006/10/03

[#217812] dynamically changing superclass/mixins — Michael Keller <ask@...>

I have strong interest in highly dynamic languages, particularly

16 messages 2006/10/03

[#217903] NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — Joe Regular <kristapestry@...>

I recently deployed an app to my production server that accesses other

27 messages 2006/10/03
[#217908] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/03

On 10/3/06, Joe Regular <kristapestry@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#217909] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — Jeremy Tregunna <jtregunna@...> 2006/10/03

[#217917] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — Joe Regular <kristapestry@...> 2006/10/03

Jeremy Tregunna wrote:

[#217919] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — Joe Regular <kristapestry@...> 2006/10/03

Joe Regular wrote:

[#217921] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/03

On 10/3/06, Joe Regular <kristapestry@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#217933] Re: NET::HTTP behind a firewall? — Joe Regular <kristapestry@...> 2006/10/04

Yes, eth1 is the public nic. I can not ping anything with the firewall

[#217945] rb_funcall() Ruby code callback invoked from within a native thread? — "Serge Kruppa" <serge.kruppa@...>

Dear All,

9 messages 2006/10/04
[#217950] Re: rb_funcall() Ruby code callback invoked from within a native thread? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/04

On 10/4/06, Serge Kruppa <serge.kruppa@simitel.com> wrote:

[#217997] Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — "zoat" <enogrob@...>

In all the recent talk (some would say hype) about the Ruby programming

32 messages 2006/10/04
[#218006] Re: Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/10/04

zoat wrote:

[#218007] Re: Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/04

On 10/4/06, Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@path.berkeley.edu> wrote:

[#218012] Re: Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — Jeremy Tregunna <jtregunna@...> 2006/10/04

[#218019] Re: Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/04

On 10/4/06, Jeremy Tregunna <jtregunna@blurgle.ca> wrote:

[#218208] Re: Enterprise-Ruby Wish List by Francis Cianfrocca — Brian McCallister <brianm@...> 2006/10/05

On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Francis Cianfrocca wrote:

[#218031] What is the reason for this syntax? — Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@...>

Hello I have been using ruby off and on for a few months and I have been

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[#218059] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...> 2006/10/04

Just to add to a very good response to the original post...

[#218256] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@...> 2006/10/05

Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality wrote:

[#218284] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/10/05

Kevin Olemoh wrote:

[#218295] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — Charles Oliver Nutter <Charles.O.Nutter@...> 2006/10/05

David Vallner wrote:

[#218306] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Louis J Scoras" <louis.j.scoras@...> 2006/10/06

On 10/5/06, Charles Oliver Nutter <Charles.O.Nutter@sun.com> wrote:

[#218339] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Jean Helou" <jean.helou@...> 2006/10/06

On 10/6/06, Louis J Scoras <louis.j.scoras@gmail.com> wrote:

[#218397] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Louis J Scoras" <louis.j.scoras@...> 2006/10/06

On 10/6/06, Jean Helou <jean.helou@gmail.com> wrote:

[#218430] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/06

People really should be able to write code in the way that they

[#218493] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — David Vallner <david@...> 2006/10/06

Kevin Olemoh wrote:

[#218501] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/06

I don't think of the blocks in the same way the real problem is that

[#218510] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Louis J Scoras" <louis.j.scoras@...> 2006/10/06

On 10/6/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#218513] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/07

Thats why I keep sayind defacto (by default) in other words this style

[#219041] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Tom Armitage" <tom.armitage@...> 2006/10/11

On 07/10/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#219738] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "rpardee@..." <rpardee@...> 2006/10/14

But isn't almost everybody coming from *somewhere*? This seems to me a

[#219763] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — dblack@... 2006/10/15

Hi --

[#219779] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/15

Personally I don't think else if needs to be an actual reserved word.

[#219780] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/15

I wanted to add that it may not be so advantageous to have so many

[#219886] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/15

On 10/15/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#219897] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/15

All I said was that perhps there needs to be a movement to remove some

[#219916] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/16

On 10/15/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#219919] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...> 2006/10/16

On 10/15/06, Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

[#219934] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/16

Having ten dialects of the same language does not nessecarily improve

[#219943] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/16

Note: this has moved far beyond Ruby. This will, therefore, be my last

[#219947] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/16

Just because creating commonality almost always requires supression

[#220022] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Tom Armitage" <tom.armitage@...> 2006/10/16

On 16/10/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#220023] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Martin Coxall" <pseudo.meta@...> 2006/10/16

> My point is: diversity of language leads to diversity of culture and

[#220056] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/16

Who said you had to force anything? Why do you assume that in all

[#220070] Re: What is the reason for this syntax? — "Louis J Scoras" <louis.j.scoras@...> 2006/10/16

On 10/16/06, Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@gmail.com> wrote:

[#218056] Associating data with a function — "Gavin Kistner" <gavin.kistner@...>

Because I just had to solve this problem in both JavaScript and Lua, and

17 messages 2006/10/04

[#218159] Re: traits question — ara.t.howard@...

14 messages 2006/10/05

[#218209] nil being empty — Ohad Lutzky <lutzky@...>

Show of hands - who thinks this is bad form?

59 messages 2006/10/05
[#218400] Re: nil being empty — "Trans" <transfire@...> 2006/10/06

[#218602] Re: nil being empty — "Matthew Harris" <shugotenshi@...> 2006/10/08

I'd like to use the common Python term, "sequence", and ask if a nil

[#218604] Re: nil being empty — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2006/10/08

Matthew Harris wrote:

[#218609] Re: nil being empty — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2006/10/08

On 10/8/06, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:

[#218222] Ruby Cookbook review — "zoat" <enogrob@...>

Because of the recent and sudden interest in Ruby on Rails, there is

18 messages 2006/10/05
[#218226] Re: Ruby Cookbook review — "Justin Bailey" <jgbailey@...> 2006/10/05

On 10/5/06, zoat <enogrob@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#218267] Re: Ruby Cookbook review — darren kirby <bulliver@...> 2006/10/05

quoth the Justin Bailey:

[#218366] Re: Ruby Cookbook review — "zoat" <enogrob@...> 2006/10/06

...I think I can answer that myself. Why are you so concerned with

[#218230] question mark at end of method name — "py" <codecraig@...>

what does the question mark at the end of a method name represent?

12 messages 2006/10/05

[#218252] Compound Parallel Operators — "Gavin Kistner" <gavin.kistner@...>

(I didn't see an RCR for this, and my lazy 60s of searching didn't find

17 messages 2006/10/05
[#218336] Re: Compound Parallel Operators — "Martin Coxall" <pseudo.meta@...> 2006/10/06

> Wouldn't it be nice if all compound operators worked with parallel

[#218385] Posix Pangrams (#97) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

23 messages 2006/10/06

[#218404] tabs and parse errors with Ruby 1.8.4 and Windows — Will Rogers <wjrogers@...>

This is a cross-post from the Rails list in hopes of getting some

13 messages 2006/10/06

[#218522] In the year 2525 — "Jim v. Tess" <jimvtess@...>

Is there a reason why Time.local can't handle dates beyond 2038? I know

21 messages 2006/10/07

[#218577] Ruby vs. Rails — "Giles Bowkett" <gilesb@...>

OK, this question came up on a local list, and I don't have the answer.

48 messages 2006/10/07
[#218596] Re: Ruby vs. Rails — Devin Mullins <twifkak@...> 2006/10/08

Giles Bowkett wrote:

[#218607] Re: Ruby vs. Rails — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/08

Devin Mullins wrote:

[#218854] Re: Ruby vs. Rails — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2006/10/10

On 10/8/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#218896] Re: Ruby vs. Rails — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/10

Martin DeMello wrote:

[#219018] Re: Ruby vs. Rails — "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@...> 2006/10/11

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#218600] HTML reporter for Test::Unit — Benjamin Curtis <ruby@...>

Tesly Jr. (http://junior.tesly.com) is a hosted web app that provides

18 messages 2006/10/08

[#218663] || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — Tuka Opaleye <tuka@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2006/10/08
[#218687] Re: || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — Dave Burt <dave@...> 2006/10/09

Tuka Opaleye wrote:

[#218762] Re: || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — Tuka Opaleye <tuka@...> 2006/10/09

Thanks for the input guys. This really helps.

[#218776] Re: || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — Dave Burt <dave@...> 2006/10/09

Tuka Opaleye wrote:

[#218817] Re: || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — "Max Muermann" <ruby@...> 2006/10/09

On 10/10/06, Dave Burt <dave@burt.id.au> wrote:

[#218861] Re: || explanation in ruby... in pseudolanguage — "Tom Armitage" <tom.armitage@...> 2006/10/10

> Anyway, if it helps, I tend to think of the |var| notation as "with", e.g.

[#218705] Removing Duplicate Objects from Object List — "Jeff Nyman" <jeffnyman_nospam@..._gmail.com>

Greetings all.

10 messages 2006/10/09

[#218733] Ruva: Pure-ruby toy (J)VM — Ross Bamford <rossrt@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2006/10/09
[#218792] Re: [ANN] Ruva: Pure-ruby toy (J)VM — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2006/10/09

Ross Bamford <rossrt@roscopeco.co.uk> writes:

[#218944] rubyforge.org down — "Tom Copeland" <tom@...>

RubyForge is down... investigating now.

18 messages 2006/10/10
[#218958] Re: rubyforge.org down — Gaspard Gaspard <gaspard@...> 2006/10/10

Tom Copeland wrote:

[#218972] Re: rubyforge.org down — "Tom Copeland" <tom@...>

> RubyForge is down... investigating now.

29 messages 2006/10/10
[#218974] Re: rubyforge.org down — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/10/10

On Oct 10, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:

[#218975] Re: rubyforge.org down — "Tom Copeland" <tom@...> 2006/10/10

> > It's back up now. We may be having hardware issues - the machine

[#218978] Re: rubyforge.org down — Tim Bray <tbray@...> 2006/10/10

On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Tom Copeland wrote:

[#219008] Re: rubyforge.org down — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2006/10/11

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 06:21 +0900, Tim Bray wrote:

[#219019] Re: rubyforge.org down — Charles Oliver Nutter <Charles.O.Nutter@...> 2006/10/11

Tom Copeland wrote:

[#219031] Re: rubyforge.org down — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2006/10/11

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:41 +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#218977] Booksales @Rubyconf? — Tim Bray <tbray@...>

Will someone be setting up a bookstand at Rubyconf? I see this at

15 messages 2006/10/10

[#219033] Execution of rubyfile in remote machines — Sampurna Mishra <tanushree.bhoi@...>

Hi All,

13 messages 2006/10/11

[#219045] scanning strings, backward? — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2006/10/11

[#219152] Re: rubyforge.org still down ? — "Tom Copeland" <tom@...>

> Cool, yup, right on. I'm going to take rubyforge down around

14 messages 2006/10/11
[#219153] Re: rubyforge.org still down ? — "Thiago Jackiw" <tjackiw@...> 2006/10/11

On 10/11/06, Tom Copeland <tom@infoether.com> wrote:

[#219177] case ... when and arrays (or what was why_ showing us at railsconf europe) — "J2M" <james2mccarthy@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2006/10/11

[#219218] Counting Frequency of Values in an Array (And Sorting by Frequency?) — x1 <caldridge@...>

Is there no method for an array that will tell me the # of occurrences

10 messages 2006/10/12

[#219276] Debugging in the large, modern practice? — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>

I think the following may be a badly formed question, but if you'd

19 messages 2006/10/12

[#219285] My .irbrc for console/irb — Dr Nic <drnicwilliams@...>

I recently discovered that I can create a .irbrc file to run setup for

15 messages 2006/10/12

[#219325] Isolating non-unique items in an array — Jason Burgett <jasbur@...>

I'm basically trying to the opposite of .uniq Let's say I have an array:

16 messages 2006/10/12

[#219330] IO.readint ? — "Rolando Abarca" <funkaster@...>

Hi all,

16 messages 2006/10/12

[#219429] Any way to get lists to throw exceptions on incorrect accesses? — Kenneth McDonald <kenneth.m.mcdonald@...>

I'm slowly doing more in Ruby (in addition to what I do in Python), as I

10 messages 2006/10/13

[#219502] A* (#98) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

26 messages 2006/10/13

[#219512] YART - Yet Another Ruby Tutorial!!! — Paul Barry <paul.barry@...>

12 messages 2006/10/13

[#219522] Why does 'chroot' interfere with 'system'? — "Sy Ali" <sy1234@...>

This always fails.

13 messages 2006/10/13

[#219649] Ruby Tutorial for beginners — "Dibya Prakash" <prakash.dibya@...>

Hi All,

15 messages 2006/10/14
[#219652] Re: [Adv] Ruby Tutorial for beginners — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/14

Neat thanks for the heads up.

[#219653] Re: [Adv] Ruby Tutorial for beginners — "Kevin Olemoh" <darkintent@...> 2006/10/14

One quick question in one of his examples he states that using single

[#219719] What books to buy? — Kyrre Nyg蚌d <kyrreny@...>

26 messages 2006/10/14
[#219726] Re: What books to buy? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2006/10/14

Kyrre Nyg蚌d wrote:

[#219797] Re: What books to buy? — Kyrre Nyg蚌d <kyrreny@...> 2006/10/15

At 23:09 14.10.2006, James Britt wrote:

[#219817] Re: What books to buy? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2006/10/15

Kyrre Nyg蚌d wrote:

[#220076] Re: "Good Ideas, Through the Looking Glass" — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

On 10/16/06, Rich Morin <rdm@cfcl.com> wrote:

13 messages 2006/10/16

[#220210] Ruby Quiz - Degree of Difficulty — Mark Woodward <markonlinux@...>

Hi all,

19 messages 2006/10/17

[#220304] ruby way to say this? — matt@... (matt neuburg)

In Ruby, zero isn't false and there is no equivalent of the ?: operator

13 messages 2006/10/17

[#220355] Newbie: Ruby and Writing Variables In Strings — Lovell Mcilwain <lovell.mcilwain@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2006/10/18

[#220424] Another topic for RubyConf — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

As if the folks at RubyConf don't have enough to talk about already,

22 messages 2006/10/18

[#220435] My first feeling of Ruby — Florent Guiliani <fguiliani@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2006/10/18

[#220531] whats this lambda code doing? — hemant <gethemant@...>

I came across following code in typo's application.rb and I can't

17 messages 2006/10/19

[#220536] Is anyone using Ruby for 24/7 financial applications? — "John Baylor" <john.baylor@...>

I know a lot of people are using ruby on rails for web apps, usually with

21 messages 2006/10/19

[#220574] RejectConf — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

Jacob Harris and I came up with the idea of doing RejectConf. If you

24 messages 2006/10/19

[#220754] filling an array excepted first and last position... — Josselin <josselin@...>

ldom = 30 # variable (last day of a month...)

11 messages 2006/10/20

[#220769] — "gaurav bagga" <gaurav.v.bagga@...>

Hi All,

19 messages 2006/10/20
[#221041] Re: [OT:usage of uml] — "Chris Carter" <cdcarter@...> 2006/10/22

Hi,

[#220787] break from block — "Farrel Lifson" <farrel.lifson@...>

I've just run into the following problem. Doing this:

15 messages 2006/10/20

[#220964] A Comparison Of Dynamic and Static Languiges — atbusbook@...

I'm doing a report on the speed of develipment and executionin varius

30 messages 2006/10/21

[#220999] DRY fanatics? — "Giles Bowkett" <gilesb@...>

Anybody know a way to make this DRYer?

15 messages 2006/10/22

[#221025] downcase part of a string — "ilhamik" <ilhami.kilic@...>

hi,

39 messages 2006/10/22
[#221405] Re: downcase part of a string — "F. Senault" <fred@...> 2006/10/24

Le 23 octobre 2006 03:16, Wilson Bilkovich a 馗rit :

[#221520] Re: downcase part of a string — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2006/10/24

F. Senault wrote:

[#221036] Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — "Alder Green" <alder.green@...>

We are going to deploy a Wiki system for a medium load website. Any

24 messages 2006/10/22
[#221040] Re: Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2006/10/22

Alder Green wrote:

[#221043] Re: Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — "Alder Green" <alder.green@...> 2006/10/22

On 10/22/06, James Britt

[#221058] Re: Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2006/10/22

Alder Green wrote:

[#221071] Re: Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — "Bret Pettichord" <bpettichord@...> 2006/10/22

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instiki

[#221078] Re: Recommendations for a Ruby Wiki, preferably with bidi support? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/10/22

Bret Pettichord wrote:

[#221108] Fast portable storage for queues — snacktime <snacktime@...>

I've tested out a couple of ways of storing a queue structure and

18 messages 2006/10/22
[#221133] Re: Fast portable storage for queues — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2006/10/23

On 10/22/06, snacktime <snacktime@gmail.com> wrote:

[#221151] Re: Fast portable storage for queues — khaines@... 2006/10/23

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Francis Cianfrocca wrote:

[#221212] How to remove empty element in an array — Li Chen <chen_li3@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2006/10/23

[#221213] How to remove empty element in an array — Li Chen <chen_li3@...>

Hi all,

12 messages 2006/10/23

[#221249] What's the difference between send and instance_eval? — "michele" <michelemendel@...>

What's the difference between send and instance_eval (except the

11 messages 2006/10/23

[#221287] '**' as hash splat? — "Trans" <transfire@...>

We can:

16 messages 2006/10/24

[#221293] Ruby's garbage collector... — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...>

Is there a name for Ruby's garbage collecting strategy?

12 messages 2006/10/24

[#221311] Chunky Bacon — Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <joeat303@...>

WTF, I ask. I know it's in why's Poignant guide, but...WTF?

26 messages 2006/10/24
[#221394] Re: Chunky Bacon — David Roberts <smartgpx@...> 2006/10/24

Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE wrote:

[#221325] Ruby in a Nutshell .. worth it? — EB <ebonakDUH_@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2006/10/24

[#221381] How can my boss take rails seriously with bugs like this? — Chris Richards <evilgeenius@...>

15 messages 2006/10/24

[#221404] How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

HighLine has some code like this:

72 messages 2006/10/24
[#221415] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Nick Sieger" <nicksieger@...> 2006/10/24

On 10/24/06, James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#221432] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2006/10/24

On 10/24/06, Nick Sieger <nicksieger@gmail.com> wrote:

[#221532] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/10/25

On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Gregory Brown wrote:

[#221538] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2006/10/25

On 10/24/06, James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#221544] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/25

Gregory Brown wrote:

[#221560] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — ara.t.howard@... 2006/10/25

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#221565] Re: [OT] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/25

ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#221573] Re: [OT] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2006/10/25

On 10/24/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#221576] Re: [OT] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/25

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:

[#221578] Re: [OT] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Robert Oliver" <rob@...> 2006/10/25

On 10/24/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#221600] Re: [OT] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/25

On 10/24/06, Robert Oliver <rob@ocstech.com> wrote:

[#221941] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — Chris Lowis <chris.lowis@...> 2006/10/26

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#222115] Re: How do I tell when I'm on Cygwin? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/26

On 10/26/06, Chris Lowis <chris.lowis@gmail.com> wrote:

[#221474] RubyConf2006 Retrospective — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>

Hi,

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[#221518] Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2006/10/24

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#221534] Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2006/10/25

James Britt wrote:

[#221622] Re: RubyConf2006 Retrospective — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/10/25

On 10/24/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#221483] Freeride, FXRuby, FXScintilla, etc. (Includes [Fwd: [fxscintilla-users] ANNOUNCE: FXScintilla 1.71 and stopping]) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

I just received this in my email. As most of you know by now, I run

8 messages 2006/10/24

[#221545] Best way to automate web browser tasks? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

I know there's Watir or something... but I'm not using

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[#221620] Is there really an impending Ruby fracture??? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

Well ... I've been home from RubyConf for a day now. I sort of expected

26 messages 2006/10/25

[#221635] Documentation formats (RDoc to PDF output?) — Alex Gutteridge <alexg@...>

Hi,

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[#221651] Potential Brit ruby meeting formally Chunky Bacon — "Cameron, Gemma (UK)" <Gemma.Cameron@...>

11 messages 2006/10/25

[#221730] ruby mysql errors -where am I going wrong here? — Mer Gilmartin <merrua@...>

Here is my test code. I am wondering where I am going wrong.

13 messages 2006/10/25

[#221814] Re: Pass block instead of here document? — "Gavin Kistner" <gavin.kistner@...>

From: Morton Goldberg [mailto:m_goldberg@ameritech.net]

16 messages 2006/10/25

[#221866] simple math question — Brad Tilley <rtilley@...>

What's the quickest way to determine if an int is an even number

27 messages 2006/10/25

[#221938] Beginner would like help with oo-modelling — Pa Per <xxx@...>

I'm new to ruby and basically oop as well, but based on what I've seen

15 messages 2006/10/26

[#221985] Re: [ANN] Potential Brit ruby meeting formally Chunky Bacon — "Cameron, Gemma (UK)" <Gemma.Cameron@...>

18 messages 2006/10/26
[#222006] Re: [ANN] Potential Brit ruby meeting formally Chunky Bacon — "Tom Armitage" <tom.armitage@...> 2006/10/26

On 26/10/06, Cameron, Gemma (UK) <Gemma.Cameron@baesystems.com> wrote:

[#222029] Re: [ANN] Potential Brit ruby meeting formally Chunky Bacon — Paul Lynch <paul@...> 2006/10/26

On 26 Oct 2006, at 16:49, Tom Armitage wrote:

[#222030] Re: [ANN] Potential Brit ruby meeting formally Chunky Bacon — "Tom Armitage" <tom.armitage@...> 2006/10/26

On 26/10/06, Paul Lynch <paul@plsys.co.uk> wrote:

[#222186] why is my singleton method called before the class is initialize? — "bachase@..." <bachase@...>

Consider:

12 messages 2006/10/27

[#222253] Fuzzy Time (#99) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

27 messages 2006/10/27

[#222263] Ruby's book list is out of date... — "Jeremy McAnally" <jeremymcanally@...>

Hello all,

13 messages 2006/10/27

[#222270] a regex — "Alexandru Popescu" <the.mindstorm.mailinglist@...>

Hi!

18 messages 2006/10/27

[#222328] classless methods — Dave Rose <bitdoger2@...>

what class does a classless independent method belong too?

15 messages 2006/10/27

[#222362] can there be a "with" construction? — matt@... (matt neuburg)

Some languages have a "with" construction, where undefined methods are

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[#222408] What are closures, continuations? — Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <joeat303@...>

I've seen these mentioned in various places. From what I can tell:

18 messages 2006/10/27

[#222432] Another nail in CygWin's coffin (attached) — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>

Austin is basically right -- *nobody* should use CygWin as a Windows

14 messages 2006/10/27

[#222453] SouthWest RubyConf? — James Britt <james.britt@...>

Is anyone aware of, or interested in helping prepare, plans for a U.S.

16 messages 2006/10/28

[#222460] Efficient parsing of large Excel documents in Ruby — Wes Gamble <weyus@...>

All,

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[#222535] symetrical encryption algo's ? — dc <lister@...>

Hi list.

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[#222569] Define a hash using %q? — Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE <joeat303@...>

Is there a way for us lazy typists to define a hash using %q? I tried

16 messages 2006/10/29
[#222571] Re: Define a hash using %q? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/10/29

Joe Ruby MUDCRAP-CE wrote:

[#222580] Interesting trival example of why open classes are good? — "Peter Michaux" <petermichaux@...>

Hi,

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[#222713] DNS library released — alexd@...

Hello -

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[#222724] Re: [ANN] DNS library released — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2006/10/30

alexd@nominet.org.uk wrote:

[#222744] Re: [ANN] DNS library released — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2006/10/30

On Oct 30, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Daniel Berger wrote:

[#222765] Ruby performance on Windows XP — "Dark Ambient" <sambient@...>

While I am working in Rails, I'm noticing that Ruby many times completely

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[#222804] QtRuby 1.4.7 — "richard.j.dale@..." <richard.j.dale@...>

URIS

15 messages 2006/10/30

[#222925] Ruby tools for managing static websites? — "Chris Pearl" <chrispearl@...>

Are there Ruby tools to help webmasters manage static websites?

22 messages 2006/10/31

[#222932] Re: [ANN] bfts 1.0.0 Released — "Jeff Dik" <s450r1@...>

This is excellent news!

15 messages 2006/10/31

[#223035] Nonblocking IO read — srobertjames@...

How can I perform a nonblocking IO read? That is, read whatever is

32 messages 2006/10/31
[#223038] Re: Nonblocking IO read — ara.t.howard@... 2006/10/31

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 srobertjames@gmail.com wrote:

[#223039] still more relentless non-repetition — "Giles Bowkett" <gilesb@...>

ok, I have this Rails code which I want to make more Rubyish.

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Re: Private visibility should be removed from Ruby 2 [was: Caveats with #method_missing]

From: "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...>
Date: 2006-10-03 18:00:47 UTC
List: ruby-talk #217893
On 10/3/06, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > In message "Re: Private visibility should be removed from Ruby 2 [was:
> Caveats with #method_missing]"
> >     on Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:21:27 +0900, "Tomasz Wegrzanowski" <
> tomasz.wegrzanowski@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > |Having a single well-defined interface was a big win for Smalltalk.
> > |Ruby is almost there, but not quite. What is the reason for Ruby
> > |to have "almost-Smalltalk" object model ?
> >
> > Because Ruby is not Smalltalk.  Really.
> >
> > Let me elaborate a bit.  Since I made the syntax of Ruby more
> > traditional than Smalltalk's "everything is a message passing" style,
> > you can write traditional code in Ruby, for example:
> >
> >   print "hello world\n"
> >
> > rather than
> >
> >   "hello world" printIt.
> >
> > or something like that.  If everything procedure is a method, what
> > should I do?  There were several choices, and I chose "print" to be a
> > method with implicit receiver, but made it "private" to detect weird
> >
> >   "foobar".print "hello world\n"
> >
> > as an error.  If you want to remove "private" from Ruby2, I expect
> > your proposal addresses the above issue.
>
> With the proposal of #funcall, I think a lot of people were confounded.
> What did fucntions have to do with private vs. public. But it becomes
> increasing clear what matz has done, for better of worse. He noticed a
> function is a  method without a receiver, which by all accounts is
> essentially the same as a method that can take no other reciever but
> self. In turn, that fits the concpet of a so-called "private" method.
> It's a very interesting sort of conscilence. Unfortuately the mixed
> terminolgy can be quite confusing since the two aren't readily
> associated. How many Rubyists would know that saying "private function"
> is redundant?


Lots of folks I guess,  if you define a function of a method called without
an explicit receiver.
As a matter of fact I disagree with this definition as there are just no
functions in Ruby.
One might define a "function call" as an implicit method call, for which
there does not seem to be any reason.
There are method calls with an explicit receiver, and there are method calls
without.
The later only are allowed for private methods, that is how I found it
defined in Pixcacke, does everyone agree on this?

For what Matz's concern is about avoiding to define #puts etc. on Object
level visibly, I would prefer a different approach.

public and protected modes do not change. private mode changes in so far
that private methods can be called from within the instance of the class of
it's definition, even with an explicit receiver, that can be the Singlteon
class BTW.

#puts and friends are looked after when all other name resolutions fail, a
straight forward idea would be to have a toplevel object of class Void (no
methods) with Kernel mixed in or a specific class TopLevel or BuiltIns. This
would have the (ugly?) sideeffect that there would be objects in Ruby that
are not Object.
After some thoughts I believe that this is exactly what Matz wanted to
model, I feel that his original approach was not the best one, because of
all these subtle side effects, that probably were not easily predicatable.


Honestly one the syntax features that UI alwasy found out of place was
> 'private' keyword. Here was essentially a DECLARATION in a language
> that sought to avoid declarations. I always felt at the least it would
> be better to make it take a block, 'private do ... end'. And I see that
> could just as well be 'function do ... end'. But why not address each
> function definition?
>
>   defunc foo
>     ...
>   end
>
> I'm curious why the public/private nomenclature was chosen over
> 'method/function' and why#funcall is being suggested now (moving away
> from that choice?).


Me too as I fail to see any needs for functions as long as we accept truely
private methods.
Truely private methods (as right now) are an important modelling tool for
data hiding and I would truely hate to miss this tool in Ruby.

>From a larger perspective, it strikes me that different approaches were
> taken for variables as opposed to methods. It is equally possible to
> think of instance variables as private attributes. In this case,
> un;like methods, it is the private entities that take precedence and
> public variables are provided via additional interface methods. The
> distiction here is one of syntax made via the @ prefix. Concievably the
> same prefix mechism could have been used for private methods.
>
>   def @foo
>     ...
>   end


That one I like very much, what would you suggest as call syntax? a.foo or
a.@foo, I simply *hate* the later.

T.
>
>
> Cheers
Robert


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