[#140667] Thinking of creating a small mini-language-interpreter using Ruby — Glenn Smith <glenn.ruby@...>

Always something I've wanted to write - an interpreter of my own. Now

12 messages 2005/05/01

[#140714] Ruby, Rails and now og — "Andrew Ballantine" <andrew.ballantine@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2005/05/02

[#140808] Re: "Bounty" approach for small pieces of code? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Molitor, Stephen L wrote:

12 messages 2005/05/03
[#140810] Re: "Bounty" approach for small pieces of code? — Richard Lyman <lymans@...> 2005/05/03

On 5/2/05, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:

[#140856] Bug Tracker — Andy Stone <xsltguru@...>

Hello all,

28 messages 2005/05/03

[#140910] Typo-checking instead of static typing — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>

Once again, static typing reared its head on the mailing list, and once

31 messages 2005/05/03

[#140928] Re: [ANN] traits-0.0.0 — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

> -----Original Message-----

16 messages 2005/05/03

[#141015] writing to a file with gsub! — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2005/05/04

[#141023] Object#inside_metaclass? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

56 messages 2005/05/04
[#141045] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/04

On Wed, 4 May 2005, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#141050] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/04

David A. Black wrote:

[#141522] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

Hi,

[#141533] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#141548] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

In message "Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass?"

[#141550] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#141575] Re: [RCR] Object#inside_metaclass? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/07

[#141057] Fixnum's binary representation — camsight@...

Hi, people!

13 messages 2005/05/04

[#141143] Re: object reference handle (like perl's reference to scalar) — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

> > In ruby, is there a way to get a handle of an object

17 messages 2005/05/04

[#141165] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...>

Version 0.6 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is

21 messages 2005/05/05
[#141176] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Alexandru Popescu <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/05/05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[#141186] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/05/05

Alexandru Popescu wrote:> Rob . said:> > Version 0.6 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is> > available for download!> >> > http://www.jedit.org/ruby/> > Great job Rob!Mulmesc!

[#141205] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Tom Copeland <tom@...> 2005/05/05

On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:38 +0900, Rob . wrote:

[#141219] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — Alexandru Popescu <the_mindstorm@...> 2005/05/05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[#141225] Re: [ANN] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6 - method completion release — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...> 2005/05/05

Alex, I don't get an exception in this case, but I see what you mean.

[#141196] Whats so different about a Hash? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Consider:

15 messages 2005/05/05
[#141197] Re: Whats so different about a Hash? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/05

On 05/05/05, Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org> wrote:

[#141199] Re: Whats so different about a Hash? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...> 2005/05/05

Hi Brian,

[#141299] another Tk question — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

In Tk, what's the best way to show a large table of data that gets

15 messages 2005/05/05
[#141326] Re: another Tk question — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2005/05/06

From: Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@gmail.com>

[#141307] String Manipulation Nuby Question — Chris Roos <chris@...>

I have a Person with title, forename and surname (all of which are

13 messages 2005/05/05

[#141311] Ruby Editor Plugin for jEdit 0.6.1 - method completion release II — "Rob ." <rob.02004@...>

Version 0.6.1 of jEdit's Ruby Editor Plugin has been released and is

12 messages 2005/05/05

[#141334] RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — John Carter <john.carter@...>

A very simple and generic way of improving the reliability of Ruby

66 messages 2005/05/06
[#141340] Prove me Wrong! Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods — John Carter <john.carter@...> 2005/05/06

On Fri, 6 May 2005, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:

[#141338] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — Luke Graham <spoooq@...> 2005/05/06

On 5/6/05, John Carter <john.carter@tait.co.nz> wrote:

[#141339] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/06

Luke Graham wrote:

[#141345] Re: RCR 303: nil should accept missing methods and return nil — John Carter <john.carter@...> 2005/05/06

On Fri, 6 May 2005, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#141349] What sound does no duck make? — John Carter <john.carter@...>

Imagine a flock of ducks in the sky. Listen.

13 messages 2005/05/06

[#141368] Re: compiler error: argument of type "VALUE *" is incompatible with parameter of type "VALUE" — me2faster@...

On May 5, 2005, at 2:44 PM, me2faster@excite.com wrote:

10 messages 2005/05/06

[#141529] [NITRO] - Mr. George Moschovitis applies Censorship on Public Project Forum — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

To understand further the _real_ difference between Nitro/Og and

25 messages 2005/05/07

[#141530] [NITRO] - Mr. Moschovitis Revolutionary Redefinition of an Open Source Project — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

George Moschovitis wrote

15 messages 2005/05/07

[#141576] HighLine 0.4.0 — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

HighLine 0.4.0 Released

29 messages 2005/05/07
[#141616] Re: HighLine 0.4.0 — "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@...> 2005/05/07

Hello James,

[#141618] Re: HighLine 0.4.0 — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/05/07

On May 7, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Vincent Foley wrote:

[#141598] Vacation - email me when Ilias is gone or people FINALLY stop responding to him — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

The signal:noise ratio on this list is terrible. I'm taking a

12 messages 2005/05/07
[#141647] Re: Vacation - email me when I. is gone or people FINALLY stop responding to him — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141615] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

Another suggestion for the "Ruby Singleton Classes" or "Exclusive Classes":

72 messages 2005/05/07
[#141681] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

In message "Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes"

[#141709] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Carlos <angus@...> 2005/05/08

[Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>, 2005-05-08 17.13 CEST]

[#141710] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/08

Carlos wrote:

[#141715] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141719] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/08

Hi --

[#141748] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/08

Hi,

[#141810] Re: [ETYMOLOGY] - Sterile Classes / Sterile Meta Classes — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/09

Hi,

[#141655] No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Cyent <cyent@...>

I'm observing a general trend in the responses to RCR 303.

26 messages 2005/05/08
[#141745] Re: No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/05/08

Cyent a 馗rit :

[#141746] Re: No Thing Here vs Uninitialized and RCR 303 — Bill Atkins <batkins57@...> 2005/05/08

This isn't about changing programming habits. Having nil return nil

[#141707] Singleton class terminology — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Just expressing my opinion here.

16 messages 2005/05/08

[#141776] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

15 messages 2005/05/09

[#141875] How to extract texts from html source? — "Sam Kong" <sam.s.kong@...>

Hi, all!

14 messages 2005/05/09

[#141900] Still umlauts — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...>

Hi,

8 messages 2005/05/09
[#142448] Re: Still umlauts — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...> 2005/05/12

Hi!

[#142507] Re: Still umlauts — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2005/05/13

Hi,

[#142514] Re: Still umlauts — Jonas Hartmann <Mail@...> 2005/05/13

Bertram Scharpf wrote:

[#142527] Re: Still umlauts — =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Brian_Schr=F6der?= <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/13

On 13/05/05, Jonas Hartmann <Mail@jonas-hartmann.com> wrote:> Bertram Scharpf wrote:> > Hi,> >> > Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005, 04:34:00 +0900 schrieb Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT:> >> >>At Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:30 +0900, Bertram Scharpf wrote:> >>> >>>does this no longer work?> >>> >>You forgot to define the meaning of 'no longer works':> >>> >> - What precisely do you mean by 'it works'?> >> >> > Sorry, that was not actually elaborate. Now I think it> > never worked at all.> >> >> >>>--------------------> >>>#!/usr/bin/env ruby> >>># -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-> >>>> >>>puts $KCODE> >>>puts "蔕ヨワ゜"> >>>--------------------> >>>> >>>I tried it with Ruby 1.8.2 and 1.9, Debian Linux.> >>>What do I miss?> >> >> > In the meantime I received an answer in ruby-core and it> > seems Matz just _planned_ to implement it but didn't have> > the time yet.> >> > The problem arises when my program is run on SuSE Linux> > where the default encoding is UTF-8.> >> > A better way to test in which encoding you reside is:> >> > "テ =~ /./> > puts $&.length> >> > This gives 1 in `None' and 2 in `UTF-8'.> >> >> >>When in doubt *set* $KCODE explicitly.> >> >> > This has no influence on how the source code is read. The> > string " produces an error when `ruby -Ku' is called.> >> > Of course I should have written "\xc3\xa4" and "\xc3".> > Is this the only way to handle strings UTF-8 in ruby?> > >> > Sorry again for the noise.> >> > Bertram> >> >> > regards> jonas> >

[#141958] Redesign 2005, Round Two — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

I'm happy to say that our little redesign team has come to accord on a

80 messages 2005/05/10
[#142020] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/05/10

why the lucky stiff ha scritto:

[#142033] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...> 2005/05/10

why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#142041] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2005/05/10

On 5/10/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:

[#142057] Re: [ANN] Redesign 2005, Round Two — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/05/10

Mark Hubbart, May 11:

[#142196] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "Karl von Laudermann" <doodpants@...> 2005/05/11

[#142219] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/11

Hi --

[#142221] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/11

David A. Black wrote:

[#142237] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/05/11

James Britt wrote:

[#142252] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/11

Hi --

[#142267] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/11

David A. Black wrote:

[#142274] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — "John W. Long" <ng@...> 2005/05/11

James Britt wrote:

[#142302] Re: Redesign 2005, Round Two — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/05/12

[#142054] String Hashing Algorithms — "Phrogz" <gavin@...>

Summary

16 messages 2005/05/10

[#142129] options parsing: required and conflict — Kirill Shutemov <k.shutemov@...>

Can I define options dependencies using OptionParser?

13 messages 2005/05/11
[#142130] Re: options parsing: required and conflict — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/05/11

Kirill Shutemov wrote:

[#142133] ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...>

Hello all,

61 messages 2005/05/11
[#142136] Re: ruby vs. java? — Michael Ulm <michael.ulm@...> 2005/05/11

Franz Hartmann wrote:

[#142141] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Hello Michael and all of you,

[#142149] Re: ruby vs. java? — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...> 2005/05/11

On 5/11/05, Franz Hartmann <porschefranz@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#142155] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Hello Logan,

[#142166] Re: ruby vs. java? — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...> 2005/05/11

[#142171] Re: ruby vs. java? — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/05/11

Ralf,

[#142176] Re: ruby vs. java? — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...> 2005/05/11

> (physician = Arzt, physicist = Physiker) :-)))

[#142224] alternatives to ? : contruct — "John-Mason P. Shackelford" <jpshack@...>

As an alternative to:

21 messages 2005/05/11

[#142260] Re: object loops and what they return — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

That sure looks ugly. I don't see any advantage of this over:

33 messages 2005/05/11
[#142359] Re: {} vs begin/end [was Re: object loops and what they return] — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/05/12

Brian Schrer wrote:

[#142379] Re: {} vs begin/end [was Re: object loops and what they return] — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2005/05/12

[#142268] Request for advice on applying a license — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2005/05/11
[#142276] Re: [OT] Request for advice on applying a license — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2005/05/11

On Wednesday 11 May 2005 18:59, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#142370] Re: [OT] Request for advice on applying a license — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/05/12

Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> writes:

[#142342] Go through directories recursively — Jens Riedel <JensRie@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2005/05/12

[#142378] Amazing Mazes (#31) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

Wow, these solutions are great fun to play with. I think next week's quiz needs

16 messages 2005/05/12

[#142404] We need a comprehensive test suite — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>

All,

12 messages 2005/05/12

[#142462] Get back data from a child (with exec) — Lawrence Oluyede <raims@...>

13 messages 2005/05/12

[#142620] ruby in WinXP as an automation tool — "kevin.gc@..." <kevin.gc@...>

Can anyone tell me if it can be done?

19 messages 2005/05/14

[#142671] infinite number of singleton_classes — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...>

Hello!

37 messages 2005/05/15
[#142710] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Ara.T.Howard@... 2005/05/15

On Sun, 15 May 2005, Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#142745] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@...> 2005/05/15

Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov a 馗rit :

[#142746] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2005/05/15

Lionel Thiry wrote:

[#142711] Re: infinite number of singleton_classes — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/15

Hi --

[#142806] IRB, Mac OS X, command-line require via "-r" and Bus Errors — "James Adam" <james.adam@...>

Hey All,

22 messages 2005/05/16

[#142808] Ruby Weekly News 2nd - 15th May 2005 — timsuth@... (Tim Sutherland)

http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20050515.html

15 messages 2005/05/16
[#143444] Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Markus <markus@...> 2005/05/23

I've got some rails code that is failing in a very strange way. It is

[#143447] Re: Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com> 2005/05/23

Markus,

[#143449] Re: Array.=== Bug, Rails Bug, or brain failure? — Markus <markus@...> 2005/05/23

[#142894] Google API, Soap and windows XP — ruby talk <rubytalk@...>

Hello,I am playing with the google api and soap. I have the newest versionof soap and i think ruby 1.8. I created my code on a laptop withmandrake 10.2 with the same version of ruby and soap. On my laptop itworks fine. On my windows computer it give me an error."F:\Documents and Settings\iv\Desktop\googlerip>ruby googled.rbmonkey filetype:pdfLoading compatibility library...c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/datatypes.rb:172:in `_set': {http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema}string: cannot accept '<b>...</b> Tibetan year of the <b>monkey</b>. These instructions are traditionally given <b>...</b><br> thus will give the rare ΓÇÖ<b>Monkey</b>-Year-TeachingsΓÇÖ after the inauguration in <b>...</b>'. (XSD::ValueSpaceError) from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/datatypes.rb:114:in `set' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/encodingstyle/soapHandler.rb:453:in `decode_textbuf' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/encodingstyle/soapHandler.rb:214:in `decode_tag_end' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/parser.rb:185:in `decode_tag_end' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/soap/parser.rb:146:in `end_element' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/parser.rb:75:in `end_element' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/xmlparser.rb:36:in `do_parse' from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/xmlparser/xmlparser.rb:31:in `parse' ... 7 levels... from (eval):2:in `doGoogleSearch' from googled.rb:16 from googled.rb:15:in `each' from googled.rb:15"

2 messages 2005/05/17

[#142901] Help regarding def wrapper — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

I窶囘 like to have a def that I can scope in one go, i.e.,

17 messages 2005/05/17

[#143041] Compiling MySQL-Ruby on Tiger — "pat allan" <pat.allan@...>

Hi all

21 messages 2005/05/18

[#143087] (newbie Q) opposite of inspect for strings — "Basile Starynkevitch [news]" <basile-news@...>

14 messages 2005/05/18

[#143225] Re: Multiple return and parallel assignement — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

25 messages 2005/05/20

[#143229] Web services and Ruby — Luke Kanies <luke@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2005/05/20

[#143252] HighLine 0.6.0 -- Now with menus! — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

HighLine 0.6.0 Released

18 messages 2005/05/20

[#143305] join not in Enumerable — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...>

Just a few minutes ago I was playing with irb as I am wont to do, and

14 messages 2005/05/21

[#143328] Vim's Ruby indenting — "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@...>

Hi to all the vim users,

17 messages 2005/05/22

[#143337] Uniform vector class, inheriting from Array: How to make sure that methods return a Vector and not an Array? — Thomas <sanobast-2005a@...>

Hi folks,

8 messages 2005/05/22
[#143342] Re: Uniform vector class, inheriting from Array: How to make sure that methods return a Vector and not an Array? — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/22

On 22/05/05, Thomas <sanobast-2005a@yahoo.de> wrote:

[#143366] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

11 messages 2005/05/23

[#143375] sciTe editor IRB window getting double characters — "soxinbox" <faker@...>

Has any one had a problem with the latest release of Ruby and the included

10 messages 2005/05/23

[#143515] if __FILE_ == $0 executed twice — Han Holl <han.holl@...>

Hello,

21 messages 2005/05/24

[#143550] new article — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...>

Sorry for posting about my own article, but I'm interested in feedback,

24 messages 2005/05/24

[#143655] A different perspective on Ruby. — ES <ruby-ml@...>

47 messages 2005/05/26
[#143681] Re: A different perspective on Ruby. — "gsinclair@..." <gsinclair@...> 2005/05/26

ES wrote:

[#143683] Re: A different perspective on Ruby. — Brian Schrer <ruby.brian@...> 2005/05/26

On 26/05/05, gsinclair@gmail.com <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#143705] Intellisense and the psychology of typing — andrew.queisser@...

Yesterday I typed in some C++ code that called a function with two

50 messages 2005/05/26
[#143710] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Thomas Adam <thomas@...> 2005/05/26

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 01:35:19AM +0900, andrew.queisser@hp.com wrote:

[#143716] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/05/26

Hello Thomas,

[#144032] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Richard Cole <rcole@...> 2005/05/30

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#144040] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/30

On 5/30/05, Richard Cole <rcole@itee.uq.edu.au> wrote:

[#144080] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/05/31

Hello Austin,

[#144088] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@scriptolutions.com> wrote:

[#144109] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2005/05/31

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#144114] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com> wrote:

[#144124] Re: Intellisense and the psychology of typing — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...> 2005/05/31

--- Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

[#143799] Plz comment — Dr Balwinder S Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Dear Rubiest!

22 messages 2005/05/27

[#143812] Ruby on Rails interest in comp.lang.python — Stephen Kellett <snail@...>

A heads up to the Rails folks.

14 messages 2005/05/27

[#143825] How to build an index of phrases in a phrase/sentence? — Dan Fitzpatrick <dan@...>

I am trying to build an indexing structure on some phrases. Most phrases

11 messages 2005/05/27

[#143884] preventing Object#send from dispatching to a global method? — Francis Hwang <sera@...>

Is there a way to prevent Object#send from dispatching to a global

17 messages 2005/05/28
[#143908] Re: preventing Object#send from dispatching to a global method? — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2005/05/29

[#143975] Ruby-VTK-0.2.0 was released — Seiya Nishizawa <seiya@...>

Hi everyone,

11 messages 2005/05/30

[#143976] Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Balwinder Singh Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...>

Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days)

26 messages 2005/05/30
[#144084] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2005/05/31

On Mon, 30 May 2005, Balwinder Singh Dheeman wrote:

[#144107] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — pat eyler <pat.eyler@...> 2005/05/31

On 5/31/05, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#144113] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — James Britt <james_b@...> 2005/05/31

pat eyler wrote:

[#144144] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — Dr Balwinder S Dheeman <bsd.SANSPAM@...> 2005/05/31

On 05/31/2005 11:44 PM, James Britt wrote:

[#144145] Re: Stats comp.lang.ruby (last 7 days) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/05/31

On May 31, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:

[#144004] creating variable with eval — "Geert Fannes" <Geert.Fannes@...>

Hello, what is the scope of a variable created inside an eval()

14 messages 2005/05/30

[#144096] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

23 messages 2005/05/31
[#144170] binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...> 2005/06/01

Hello,

[#144254] Re: binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/06/01

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Zev Blut wrote:

[#144306] Re: binding, ObjectSpace._id2ref [WAS] Re: [ANN] parseargs-0.0.0 — "Zev Blut" <rubyzbibd@...> 2005/06/02

Hello,

Re: [PROPOSAL] We need a comprehensive test suite

From: Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Date: 2005-05-12 20:43:03 UTC
List: ruby-talk #142463
Eric Hodel wrote:
> 
> On 12 May 2005, at 08:59, Daniel Berger wrote:
> 

<snip>

> 
> They're not too bad, actually.
> 
> Plus the framework handles both 1.6 and 1.8 and changes between minor/ 
> major revs quite handily.
> 
> They *do* need some loving to get up to 1.8, though.

Ok, I hadn't checked the CVS repository.  I only noticed that there 
hasn't been a new file uploaded to the project in over a year.  I 
thought it was dead.

> 
> Ryan and I are using Rubicon's Array tests for implementing MetaRuby,  
> and have noted missing tests in the suite, these include the block  form 
> of Array#fill and no tests were present for Array#zip.  I don't  know if 
> Ryan has checked in those patches yet.  Its not as if the  entire core 
> library was changed when we went from 1.6 to 1.8.
> 
> While not perfect, reinventing Rubicon because Array was missing a  
> handful of tests would be quite silly.

I don't totally understand the way tests are written/organized in 
Rubicon.  I'm also confused by the 'rubyunit' requirement.  Isn't 
everything rewritten using testunit?

<snip>

>> As things stand now we've got a single file for each core class,  but 
>> if we write comprehensive test cases for each method, putting  every 
>> test in a single file would become unwieldy.  Hence the  suggestion to 
>> have each method in its own file.
> 
> 
> I don't think so:
> 
> $ ls *Array* *String* *Hash* | xargs wc -l | sort -r
>      3267 total
>      1363 StringBase.rb
>      1224 ArrayBase.rb
>       634 HashBase.rb
>        16 TestString.rb
>        16 TestArray.rb
>        14 TestHash.rb
> 
> A 1500 line ruby file is far from unmanageable.  This also reduces  the 
> benefit for people making their own Ruby implementation.  Instead  of 
> looking through one file when implementing Array, they now have to  look 
> through over 100.

We're talking about an extremely small number of people this would 
annoy.  Having each method in its own file is much easier on my brain 
and reduces the possibility of side-effects, i.e. one test inadvertantly 
affecting another test.

>> As an aside, I would like to see Rake included in 1.8.3 and beyond  
>> because I think it could help with automating some of these things.
> 
> 
> Rubicon uses make and some custom C utilities.  Using rake would  reduce 
> the utility for people using the test suite for alternative  Ruby 
> implementations.  (JRuby uses this test suite, and so does  MetaRuby.)

Perhaps, but using Rake would (in theory) significantly reduce cross 
platform issues.  The make and custom C utilties could still be left in 
for precisely the reasons you mention, though.

<snip>

> I think you'd be better off working on Rubicon.  It has 75% of the  work 
> done for you already, has nice reports, and has many of the  
> platform/version differences spelled out.
> 
> You'll simply be reinventing the wheel by writing your own brand-new  
> test suite for Ruby.

<snip>

> I think you should take a serious look at Rubicon before rolling your  
> own.  Rubicon already has at least 75%, possibly 90% of the work you  
> need already done.  Save yourself lots of time and give it a little  
> love, and you'll have something much, much better with much, much  less 
> effort.
> 

Alright, I will look at Rubicon again. :)

Regards,

Dan

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