[#104966] Why I don't use Ruby. — TLOlczyk <olczyk2002@...>
For a short period I used Ruby and found that I liked it very much,
Mikael Brockman <phubuh@phubuh.org> wrote in message news:<87llhx2hec.fsf@phubuh.org>...
Sean Russell wrote:
James Britt wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 12:48, Hal Fulton wrote:
Hal Fulton a 馗rit :
On Monday 12 July 2004 13:52, bruno modulix wrote:
Sean O'Dell a 馗rit :
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 13:02, bruno modulix wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 14:37, Florian Gross wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 15:22, Florian Gross wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 16:12, Florian Gross wrote:
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On Thursday 08 July 2004 11:52, Sean Russell wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 05:03:10 +0900, Sean O'Dell <sean@celsoft.com> wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 14:29, zuzu wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 07:38:52 +0900, Sean O'Dell <sean@celsoft.com> wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 16:41, zuzu wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:16:17 +0900, Sean O'Dell <sean@celsoft.com> wrote:
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On Saturday 10 July 2004 11:57, Sean Russell wrote:
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:07:30 +0900, Sean Russell
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[#104998] SQLite-Ruby 1.2.0 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
SQLite-Ruby is a module for accessing SQLite (http://www.sqlite.org)
[#105057] ruby-dev summary 23763-23840 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>
Hi all,
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 08:08:42PM +0900, Minero Aoki wrote:
[#105058] Exceptions list - Unix ENOENT not the name of the exception - what is? — Graham Nicholls <graham@...>
Austin Ziegler wrote:
[#105081] Help with one-liner — Philip Mateescu <pmateescu@...>
Hello,
On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 01:13 +0900, Philip Mateescu wrote:
You're probably right about the line ending, here's a variation:
[#105101] Re: How to detect if variable has been defined yet? — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
il Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:40:40 GMT, Randy Lawrence <jm@zzzzzzzzzzzz.com>
[#105121] define_method to add a Class method? — walter@...
How do you use define_method (or an equivalent) to add a method to a
On Friday 02 July 2004 12:42, walter@mwsewall.com wrote:
On Friday 02 July 2004 13:02, walter@mwsewall.com wrote:
[#105126] Simple mod_ruby counter using global variable — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
I'm guessing this is because each Apache process has its own Ruby
[#105127] Ruby 1.8.2 to be released on July 7? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Is Ruby 1.8.2 going to be released on July 7? I heard a rumor that it
Hello Randy,
[#105133] irb — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#105134] slow method searching? — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>
$ time ruby -e'a=(1..200000).to_a; a.classx'
David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com> writes:
[#105186] SQLite/Ruby update pending — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
I'm getting ready to release a "release-candidate" of SQLite/Ruby 1.3.0.
il Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:04:22 +0900, Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> ha
gabriele renzi wrote:
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 11:01:02 PM, Jamis wrote:
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
[#105192] Best way to determine if running on windows or unix-based system — Carl Youngblood <carl.youngblood@...>
I'm going to try using Ruby/DL to write a full-fledged ruby extension
Hi,
[#105204] Problem with "eval" — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#105215] Regular expression question — gm@... (George Moschovitis)
Hello everyone!
[#105234] Which version of Ruby is most widely used? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
What version of Ruby are most of us currenting using?
Hello Randy,
--- Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@scriptolutions.com> wrote:
[#105240] aeditor 1.0 released — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
screenshots:
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On Monday 05 July 2004 16:40, Kaspar Schiess wrote:
On Monday 05 July 2004 02:13, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
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[#105253] YAML questions/ideas — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Hi, _why (and others who may wish to comment)...
[#105254] Transforming... — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
Meino wrote:
[#105269] Wiki spam — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Folks,
[#105281] Seperate body content from HTML — Matthew Margolis <mrmargolis@...>
I am currently working on a script that will parse lyrics on online
[#105307] Net::SSH 0.0.2 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Net::SSH is an implementation of the SSH2 protocol in Ruby.
Jamis Buck wrote:
Randy Lawrence wrote:
Jemis,
[#105314] Array::index and rindex operator — Hadmut Danisch <nospam@...>
Hi,
Robert Klemme wrote:
Hi --
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> writes:
[#105317] How to encode binary for http.post() — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
I'm having problems posting a binary string (around 256 characters)
[#105330] Ruby Advocacy/Documentation/Sponsorship? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Having discovered Ruby recently and falling in love with it, I'm
Randy Lawrence wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:14:01 +0900, you wrote:
[#105331] Re: Ruby Advocacy/Documentation/Sponsorship? — "dross@..." <dross@...>
I have been working on a CMS with ruby documentation, examples, and API. I
[#105344] CfC: Workshop on Revival of Dynamic Languages @ OOPSLA'04 — Roel Wuyts <roel.wuyts@...>
CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS
il Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:58:06 +0200, Roel Wuyts <roel.wuyts@ulb.ac.be>
[#105347] YAML Error: stack level too deep — "E.-R. Bruecklmeier" <unet01@...>
Hi Rubyists,
[#105369] Windows - Socket - Connect - Nonblocking — "Jean-Francois Nadeau" <jean-francois.nadeau@...>
Hi,
[#105370] Ever dream about watching Maggie Simpson cum? — Nostrils <beforeshe@...>
Also, would you finger Marge Simpson until she fainted?!!?
[#105391] beginner question — Mikael Larsson <mikael.x.larsson@...2.se>
Hi all
[#105408] Bugtracking & UnitTests == good? — martinankerl at eml dot cc <asdf@...>
Hi all! I am afraid this post is a bit offtopic. If you are not
On Tuesday 06 July 2004 11:17, martinankerl at eml dot cc wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Tuesday 06 July 2004 11:31, Jamis Buck wrote:
Sean O'Dell wrote:
[#105417] Secure Ruby Compiler — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
One of the killer features lacking in most scripting languages is the
Randy,
Randy Lawrence wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:32:46 +0900, you wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 04:28:54 +0900, tony summerfelt
It's a choice. If you want to share your source, that is your decision.
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:17:31 +0900, John Johnson <johnatl@mac.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:35:55 +0900, John Johnson <johnatl@mac.com> wrote:
> > > If not for discouraging 'casual copying', then are there
[#105437] Rubygems Wiki Spam — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
Umm all of the rubygems wiki has been overwritten by spam from some
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:37:32 +0900, Patrick May <patrick@hexane.org> wrote:
[#105444] Time to go vote ... — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>
for Ruby as your favorite programming language:
[#105454] Class#=== has interesting results — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
Why does this happen?
--- Charles Comstock <cc1@cec.wustl.edu> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:22:36PM +0900, Charles Comstock wrote:
Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:
Hi --
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, David A. Black wrote:
Hi --
--- "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
[#105478] Regexp exercise — "Olivier D." <nkh@..._tele2_AM.fr>
Hi,
[#105507] arguments to Thread#raise ? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>
If I write:
>>>>> "P" == Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:
[#105537] GEM /FXRuby problems — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:56:56 +0900, Meino Christian Cramer
From: Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@gmail.com>
[#105539] open-uri: problem handling https? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Hi,
In article <cC0Hc.33918$eH1.16184273@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>,
[#105552] ruby-doc.org URL-based Documentation Queries not working? — CT <demerzel@...>
Hi all,
CT wrote:
James Britt wrote:
Dave Thomas wrote:
[#105560] ruby interpreter as mach kernel server (beside bsd) — zuzu <sean.zuzu@...>
ruby, starting the interactive ruby shell, but with filesystem access
[#105567] speeding ruby development — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>
I personally would very much like Ruby development to be sped up. We
Charles Mills <cmills@freeshell.org> writes:
Hi,
il Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:33:54 +0900, David Garamond
If you're going to do the work to support something (paying people to
[#105587] Efficient way to do a simple Perl thing with Ruby — "Kirk Haines" <khaines@...>
I have some Perl code that does something like this:
[#105597] While we're discussing 'ri'... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I have a confession. 'ri' has never worked for me, and I have never
Hal Fulton wrote:
James Britt wrote:
[#105651] Anomoly using pattern to remove superfluous final \, if present — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
Hi All,
[#105660] Secure Database Systems — "Sarah Tanembaum" <sarahtanembaum@...>
I was wondering if it is possible to create a secure database system
[#105681] I love Ruby — Graham Nicholls <graham@...>
I had to say it! I teach for LearningTree, so was able to attend a perl
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:17:32 +0900, Graham Nicholls
[#105687] Ruby-Syntax capable editors for OS X? — Michael Fivis <michael.fivis@...>
Hello, fellow OS X Ruby fans. I was wondering if there was any nice
Michael,
I liked vim and ruby.vim was nice, but I like literally being able to
[#105702] bdb 0.5.0 problem with ruby 1.8 — Nikolai Krot <fake_address@...>
Hi
[#105707] StringIO#readbytes — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#105729] weird behaviour — lopex <lopexx@...>
Hello
[#105735] PickAxe 2 licensing — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
Folks:
> Sam Stephenson wrote:
> open-sourced. This didn't happen. In fact, what seemed to happen is
Dave Thomas <dave@pragprog.com> wrote in message news:<DA50B6EA-D1B6-11D8-A508-000A95676A62@pragprog.com>...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:43:23 +0900, Dave Thomas <dave@pragprog.com> wrote:
On Saturday 10 July 2004 10:21, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#105754] : RubyGems 0.7.0 Released — Jim Weirich <jim@...>
Hello all,
il Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:02:23 +0900, Gavin Sinclair
gabriele renzi wrote:
[#105755] ruby CVS system() bug? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>
[#105788] My impressions about Ruby — "Sam Sungshik Kong" <ssk@...>
This post is kinda long and a personal opinion which is not meant for
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:02:02 +0200, Mauricio Fern疣dez
[#105813] Ruby Snapshot Notifier — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Has anyone already implemented a ruby script to check if a new ruby
[#105890] FXRuby 1.2.0 / Fox 1.2.6 — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
[#105903] OT: Am I readable ? — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
[#105942] Business application building with Ruby — Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>
I am contemplating a project, and I have a question:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:27:23 +0900, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote
Thanks for the responses.
Result of executing this code:
>>>>> "A" == Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@verk.info> writes:
Kirk Haines wrote:
[#105959] A little algorithmic help requested... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Here's a problem my tired brain is having trouble with.
[#105970] Hosting Ruby scripts/cgi (repost) — Keith P Hodges <keith_hodges@...>
All,
[#105996] Syntax question for gsub — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
Dnia 2004-07-11 19:14, U杉tkownik Dirk Einecke napisaウ:
Hi.
[#106011] Net::SSH 0.0.3 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Net::SSH is a Ruby implementation of the SSH2 client protocol.
Hi,
il Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:25:28 +0900, Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu> ha
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 5:32:22 PM, gabriele wrote:
[#106021] const_missing — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#106022] SQLite-Ruby 1.3.0 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Looks like there were no problems found in the SQLite-Ruby release
From: Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu>
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
From: Jamis Buck <jgb3@email.byu.edu>
From: Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de>
[#106026] Re: Make A Fortune For Only $6 - MUST BE HONEST!!! — Jason Creighton <androflux@...>
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:29:03 GMT,
[#106027] How to install eRuby on Mac OS X 10.3 — Jonas Hartmann <Mail@...>
Welcome list, I am new to this and to ruby :-)
The following worked for me:
Whuuu, there is modruby and eruby, what is the difference/their jobs?
[#106028] Ruby quickies and useful idioms — Sam Stephenson <sstephenson@...>
There's a few trivial but useful "extensions" to Ruby's standard
il Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:55:58 +0900, Mikael Brockman
[#106052] Ruby Module Naming Convention vs Java Namespaces — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
How do we manage namespaces in Ruby to avoid collisions with 3rd parties?
Hi --
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:28:40 AM, David wrote:
On Monday 12 July 2004 08:28, David A. Black wrote:
[#106089] tk/autoload not found — Wybo Dekker <wybo@...>
Hi,
[#106090] Gem & extconf.rb command line options — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...>
Hello,
[#106102] ruby-dev summary 23841-23877 — "Takaaki Tateishi" <ttate@...>
Hello,
[#106127] problem with cerise & active_record & mysql on mac os x 10.3 — Caio Chassot <k@...2studio.com>
Hi all,
* Caio Chassot <k@v2studio.com> [0746 21:46]:
Dick Davies wrote:
[#106133] can't override a cgi function, please help — Cere Davis <cere@...>
This is soooo driving me crazy!
[#106136] Problems creating a method to define a class with its method — Benny <linux@...>
Dear list,
[#106144] make install not working under msys/mingw32 — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
I'm upgrading my mingw32 ruby from 1.8.1 to the latest 1.9.0 snapshot.
[#106150] RubyGems 0.7.0 - still "Alpha" status? — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Hi,
[#106163] win32api: how to access NetFileEnum results? — Jos Backus <jos@...>
I'm trying to programmatically determine any network opened files on a Windows
[#106169] gets — "News Groups" <ram_naga@...>
Hello All,
[#106215] Printing contents of a method — Nate Smith <nsmith5@...>
Hello all,
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:24, Dave Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#106217] Problem with extension on OS X — Andreas Schwarz <usenet@...>
Hello,
[#106227] qtruby compilation error — Jochen Immendfer <jochen.i@...>
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 01:40:23AM +0900, Jochen Immendfer wrote:
Thank you two for answering.
Ok, I did one more try. This time on my notebook -- same distribution like
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 02:32:36AM +0900, Jochen Immend?rfer wrote:
irb(main):001:0> require 'Qt'
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 03:29:33AM +0900, Jochen Immend?rfer wrote:
[#106294] String.split — Tom Danielsen <tom@...>
[#106309] instance variable question in test/unit TestCase — Nicholas Van Weerdenburg <nick@...>
Hi all,
Nicholas Van Weerdenburg wrote:
[#106325] Updating comp.lang.ruby FAQ... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I used to have an automated process for sending out the c.l.r FAQ,
[#106357] 'Initializing' modules — George Moschovitis <gm@...>
Hello everyone,
Hello!
[#106358] Re: qtruby and ms windows — "Jochen=20Immend=F6rfer" ?= <jochen.i@...>
Could it be, that qtruby requires qt-3.3.x?
[#106365] Split quoted text — Michael Weller <michael@...>
Hi!
[#106366] — Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@...>
Hi,
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 14:41, ts wrote:
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
Okay, I understand the idea now. Problem is that I register two global
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
> The problem is not that you _can_ load the file, you *must* load it
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
> The loaded file need to call the register_functions, i.e. rather than
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
>>>>> "J" == Jesse van den Kieboom <troplosti@orcaweb.cjb.net> writes:
[#106384] RubyGarden Wiki needs some CSS help — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Is there a wiki maintainer listening?
[#106419] Ruby Goody :) — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
[#106441] Problems with soap4r's wsdl2ruby.rb — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
I decided to try some things with soap4r's wsdl2ruby.rb script, and
Hi,
NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:
[#106445] Newbie: Pointers for Ruby compatible DBase engine — xdblade@... (Xeon)
Hi,
[#106449] still having problems with soap4R — "Ernie" <erne@...>
Installed Soap4r-1_5_2 no problem
[#106471] Free Ruby "Cookbook" (48.71% done) — Randy Lawrence <jm@...>
Anyone know if this is moving along or stalled?
"Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> wrote in message news:<44441.129.94.6.30.1089874634.squirrel@webmail.imagineis.com>...
[#106479] when will coerce be called? — "Xiangyu Yang" <xiangyu.yang@...>
I want to treat "true" as 1 and "false" as 0. So I do:
Hi,
il 15 Jul 2004 01:38:06 -0700, "Xiangyu Yang"
[#106480] my ruby code won't go as fast as my perl code — "Dave Burt" <burtdav@...>
I realise I'm doing this a perlish way, but my question is, is it possible
[#106493] Writing games in Ruby? — winnocence@... (Innocence)
Hey
On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 04:47, Innocence wrote:
[#106500] problems with xslt4r — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...>
Hi,
Ralf Mler wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juli 2004 14:55 schrieb Michael Neumann:
[#106512] Problem using Ruby as script language, which limits its distribution speed — "Christian Kaiser" <bchk@...>
I am (or was) a big fan of ruby (except some unexpected function names, but
[#106519] Hiding app.run in begin-rescue block: pros & cons? — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
Hi All,
irb(main):001:0> s = "#{aaa}"
Hi,
On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 08:09, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 17:10, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#106530] scripting language (fwd) — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
Ara.T.Howard wrote:
Ara.T.Howard wrote:
Isn't there source code for the oci oracle protocol out there? A lot
Carl Youngblood wrote:
On Friday, July 16, 2004, 5:25:47 AM, Jamis wrote:
[#106546] Anyone tried Arachno Ruby? — "Robert Oschler" <no_replies@..._email_address.invalid>
I'm considering taking a look at Arachno Ruby but I'd like to hear from some
I used it at the end of last year while it was in alpha and I liked where it
Hello Keith,
Saw this mentioned here, so I tried it out. Looks very need and the
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:20:41 +0900, you wrote:
tony summerfelt wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:09:41 +0900, you wrote:
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:40:03 AM, tony wrote:
[#106549] Stumped newbie... — esplair@... (flattree)
Here is what I'm trying to do. Simulate nodes with objects. The nodes
[#106567] Monitor network connections — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)
Hi all!
[#106604] Do you want ":=" operator? — "Xiangyu Yang" <xiangyu.yang@...>
(I may start a new thread. )
>Right. But not all object states or values can be changed that way,
Hi,
[#106620] Fundamental question — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
[#106642] Another little algoritmic help needed... — Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@...>
Hi,
[#106668] Wo publishes Pickaxe II? — Michael Vondung <mvondung@...>
Might have missed a message, but has it it been mentioned who is going
[#106675] Dynamically replacing methods for efficiency — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I have an idea here, but I'm afraid of crossing the line from
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 05:21:17 +0900, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
[#106730] rfind-1.0: search-on-typing for all your files — martin.ankerl@... (Martin Ankerl)
Hi all,
[#106735] : about class method — "Kurk Lord" <kurk_lord@...>
Hi all,
What's the meaning of () outside of being function parameter delimiters
[#106736] Ruby Way code for shuffling an array doesn't behave as expected — Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>
One example in The Ruby Way claims that in the following snippet second
Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 01:43, Mark Sparshatt wrote:
[#106780] Looking at a Class's source — Claus Spitzer <DocBoobenstein@...>
Is there a way to look at the source of a class? E.g.
[#106782] ruby idiom for parsing function arguments? — zuzu <sean.zuzu@...>
this may be a silly question, but can someone provide for me the ruby
zuzu wrote:
[#106784] Current method — Claus Spitzer <DocBoobenstein@...>
How could I know which method (if any) is currently being executed? E.g.
[#106819] Which compiled language is closest to Ruby? — Gully Foyle <nospam@...>
I am currently using C++ as my compiled language but fell in love with
For a fully object oriented compiled language you might want to take a
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:02:22 +0900, you wrote:
[#106823] Ruby Specification — David Ross <drossruby@...>
Request. Can someone create a ruby specification? I
il Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:38:31 +0900, David Ross <drossruby@yahoo.com>
Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@PATH.Berkeley.EDU> wrote in message news:<40FC2CD0.7090408@path.berkeley.edu>...
[#106837] Compiling Ruby code — Nospam <news.home.nl-1@...>
Hi,
On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 1:48:17 AM, David wrote:
Nospam wrote:
Michael Neumann wrote:
Hello Scott,
Hi,
[#106852] Java ResourceBundle like class in Ruby — Edgardo Hames <ehames@...>
Hi, everybody. I wondered how would you write a ResourceBundle-like
[#106855] using rdoc to document dynamically-generated classes — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>
I have a number of classes that are dynamically generated at the time my
[#106860] DBUnit for Ruby? — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#106877] Ruby Course — Brian Schroeder <spam0504@...>
Hello Everybody,
[#106891] Ruby legalities & The Ruby Foundation — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
There have been several posts recently about the legality of using Ruby in
[#106904] Simple Solution to Ruby Licensing Issues/Misunderstandings — Gully Foyle <nospam@...>
After hearing a lot of confusion abour ruby licensing, I decided to
[#106908] Onigurama — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>
I've just started reading "Mastering Regular Expressions" because, while
> HI Michael,
Am Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2004 10:22 schrieb Michael Mueller:
> The imho coolest thing of FreeBSD ist the strict
David Ross wrote:
Harry Ohlsen wrote:
[#106909] Ruby/Tk article on macdevcenter — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
Hadn't seen this mentioned yet:
[#106929] Net::SSH difficulties — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I just installed Net::SSH 0.0.3 and started to play with it.
[#106940] Re: Compiling Ruby code — "James, Roshan (Cognizant)" <JRoshan@...>
If it is a meaningful additions to this list, I'd like to say that thse
At Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:50:43 +0900,
Ruben wrote:
[#106979] thread safe? — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>
i see that a number of modules are declared 'thread safe?'
tony summerfelt (snowzone5@hotmail.com) wrote:
[#106986] Please e-mail Google to help the Ruby Garden Wiki — "Robert Oschler" <no_replies@..._email_address.invalid>
Hello,
[#106988] VB(ish) replacement — Dave Boland <NOSPAMdboland9@...>
The other day I was asked if there is an open source replacement for VB6
Others have answered most of the other questions.
[#107001] openssl not getting built — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I'm building the July 20 snapshot on Fedora 1.
Hal Fulton wrote:
Jamis Buck wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Hal Fulton wrote:
Ara.T.Howard wrote:
Hal Fulton wrote:
[#107012] Copland 0.4.0 "Rodeo" — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Copland is an "Inversion of Control" (IoC), or "Dependency Injection"
[#107027] Safe Ruby Environment — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
il Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:03:50 +0900, Michael Neumann
gabriele renzi wrote:
Michael Neumann wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
[#107029] Now a different Net:SSH error... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Thanks Jamis, Tom, Josh, Ara...
Hal Fulton wrote:
[#107051] sysread and buffered I/O — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I've been playing with telnet (and ssh) and I've been
In article <40FE101D.90603@hypermetrics.com>,
Tanaka Akira wrote:
In article <40FE1A4C.9080403@hypermetrics.com>,
Tanaka Akira wrote:
In article <40FE1F86.6030005@hypermetrics.com>,
On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 6:22:19 PM, Tanaka wrote:
In article <189-1205065002.20040721185353@soyabean.com.au>,
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:56:01 +0900, Tanaka Akira <akr@m17n.org> wrote:
In article <opsbhnakfau5o8pp@233.dallas-20rh16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net>,
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Tanaka Akira wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407210648370.13231@harp.ngdc.noaa.gov>,
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Tanaka Akira wrote:
In article <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407220742560.5080@harp.ngdc.noaa.gov>,
[#107068] Little query — Peter Hickman <peter@...>
Given that x is an Array how come I can do
[#107093] mod_ruby or fastcgi+ruby? — Gully Foyle <nospam@...>
What are the pros & cons of mod_ruby vs fastcgi+ruby? Ruby will most
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:47:03 +0900, Gully Foyle wrote
[#107107] tempfile iterator? — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>
what's the easiest way to iterate through a Tempfile?
[#107118] Ruby Installer for Windows 1.8.2-14_RC5 (from Ruby 1.8.2 preview1) — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
Today Matz released the official preview1 for Ruby 1.8.2. This release
Hello,
Javier Fontan wrote:
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:48:15AM +0900, Curt Hibbs wrote:
This release candidate of the Ruby Installer for Windows
Ok, ok... I know I said no more releases until
Curt Hibbs wrote:
Hi,
nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:37:58AM +0900, Curt Hibbs wrote:
Zakaria wrote:
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:59:57PM +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
El mi駻coles 21 de julio, Curt Hibbs escribi鷓
David Espada wrote:
Hello Curt,
Lothar Scholz wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:54:00 +0900, Lothar Scholz
il Fri, 23 Jul 2004 01:08:21 +0900, Richard Kilmer
[#107122] Referencing objects and program design — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>
Hi all,
[#107128] Re: substring by range parameter (bug?) — "D T" <email55555@...>
Correct to my previous conclusion.
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, D T wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
In article <1090572876.683170.2693.nullmailer@picachu.netlab.jp>,
[#107151] Problem with ActiveRecord and Cerise — Caio Chassot <k@...2studio.com>
Hi all,
> After a period of time (few hours / a day), the site stops responding.
[#107156] Bug? String interpolation and continuations — Sam McCall <tunah.usenet@...>
The following gives me weird results:
Carlos <angus@quovadis.com.ar> wrote in message news:<20040722102042.GA1575@quovadis.com.ar>...
[#107224] Reading stderr, stdout and the exit status of a process — Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>
Problem: call an external process, wait till it finishes, get its stdout
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 23:02, Ara.T.Howard wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:
[#107246] "Name my HTML E-mail lib" contest — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>
I've written a library to generate multipart/alternative HTML E-mail
Use the MIME namespace, IMO. MIME::Mail, MIME::MultipartMail, or
[#107247] Strange warning-message — Sebastian Ruhs <RembrandtAkaDodger@...>
Hi!
[#107263] Re: Ruby rocks! HELP converting Ruby to C++? — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#107278] Active Record 0.9.0: Thread safety, speed, naturalness — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Active Record 0.9.0?
I'm still new to ActiveRecord, so forgive me if this is obvious, but
On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 8:59:26 PM, Carl wrote:
> I'm pretty confident that David would ensure ActiveRecord works just
This stuff should probably be documented better, since it is not very
Carl Youngblood wrote:
You're right. Sorry for being a non-contributing leech. As soon as I
The reason I say this is that it's the best way to document what users
> The reason I say this is that it's the best way to document what users
I'm still confused on what associations have responsibility for
> I'm still confused on what associations have responsibility for
[#107307] Generating a core without termination — Gennady <gfb@...>
Hi, guys
[#107320] Is Ruby to Objective-C Source Translator Easier? — Gully Foyle <nospam@...>
Would it be easier to create a ruby to objective-c translator than it is
[#107327] Action Pack 0.7.5: On rails from request to response — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
It's with great pleasure that I present to you the first public release
[#107347] Which editor has YAML Syntax Highlighting — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>
Hello,
[#107352] The number of lines of a file? — polarpolar <polarpolar@...>
Hi, Ruby Fans :
[#107370] Rails 0.5.0: The end of vaporware! — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
I致e been talking (and hyping) Rails for so long that it痴 all wierd to
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> The 10 minute video is really impressive. But after browsing through
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
>>> The 10 minute video is really impressive. But after browsing through
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
I think a better solution if you wanted something like this would be
Carl Youngblood wrote:
> Well, here's a quick hack that anyone could do in their code to make
If you include ERB::Util then it includes html escape. Use it in your
[#107372] Parameterized tests with test/unit — Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>
Ruby is amazing... Try to do this in Java (it is possible, but not in so
On Jul 24, 2004, at 16:50, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 02:20, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
[#107374] Iteration in extensions — Fredrik Jagenheim <jagenheim@...>
I can't get this simple thing to work. My extension uses two
[#107387] rubyonrails and cgikit comparison — Gully Foyle <nospam@...>
There seems to be a lot of excitement about rubyonrails even before the
il Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:48:30 +0900, Florian Weber
> He's saying that he does not want to have 'foo' referencing something
Florian Weber wrote:
Florian Weber wrote:
> Let me return the question: don't you think there a gain if the ruby
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 19:53:55 +0900, Florian Weber wrote:
> I agree with you - there is no point in comparing framework via the
Gully Foyle wrote:
> The reason I said it seems cgikit better separates presentation and
Florian Weber wrote:
> I have to admit that in using cgikit I didn't experience the binding
> What I like about it is that it completely separates presentation from
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> Wouldn't that result in a very long tag, and thus more difficult to
[#107388] Get the content of a file — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#107419] Reading binary data with String or StringIO? — Gianni Jacklone <gianni@...6ix.com>
I need to read a binary string into memory and parse it using methods
[#107423] WEBrick and Binary POST Data — Gianni Jacklone <gianni@...6ix.com>
Greetings Rubyists:
[#107434] Net::SSH 0.0.4 "Happy Birthday To Me" — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Net::SSH is a pure Ruby implementation of the SSH2 client protocol.
[#107468] Re: PickAxe I — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#107479] aop presentational items in Rails? — leon breedt <bitserf@...>
hi,
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:26:26 +0900, Florian Weber
[#107486] code introspection — daniel@... (Daniel Cremer)
Hi,
[#107510] tk.update — karibou <me@...>
Please is anyone able to guide me to what I am missing ? tk update seems
[#107551] How to contact Ruby-conf staffs? — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi.
On Jul 27, 2004, at 05:56, SASADA Koichi wrote:
[#107552] Can't get rails to work — Fredrik Jagenheim <jagenheim@...>
Just trying to do the simple examples seen in both the tutorial and video.
[#107555] Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby: Expansion Pak I: The Tiger's Vest (with a Basic Introduction to Irb) — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
Yes, I've been taking forever. Well, what can I say? Answering threats
why the lucky stiff wrote:
Raphael Bauduin wrote:
Curt Hibbs wrote:
why the lucky stiff wrote:
Curt Hibbs wrote:
Florian Gross wrote:
Curt Hibbs wrote:
Henrik Horneber wrote:
il Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:55:51 +0200, Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> ha
gabriele renzi wrote:
[#107563] Net::SSH::SFTP::Simple fails to get file — "hackerotaku" <hackerotaku@...>
greetings to all
[#107574] Anyone tried compiling Ruby with c++? — Asfand Yar Qazi <im_not_giving_it_here@..._hate_spam.com>
No, I didn't say "porting Ruby to C++", I said "compiling Ruby
[#107594] DBI: connecting 'local' database — Ralf Mler <r_mueller@...>
Hi,
Ralf Mler wrote:
Am Dienstag, 27. Juli 2004 16:12 schrieb Michael Neumann:
Ralf,
Am Dienstag, 27. Juli 2004 18:56 schrieb Lennon Day-Reynolds:
Am Mittwoch, 28. Juli 2004 08:43 schrieb Ralf Mler:
Ralf Mler wrote:
[#107609] Is this a bug in Time.local? — "Richard A. Ryan" <Richard.A.Ryan@...>
Hi,
[#107610] Rails sessions — Bauduin Raphael <rb@...>
Hi,
> I'm a cgikit user as everyone knows by now ;-) and I like the way how
[#107648] a question on diff modules — jm <jm@...>
A notice that there is a few diff modules of raa. Two questions,
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:14:02 +0900, jm <jm@transact.com.au> wrote:
[#107659] What does NASA use Ruby for? — Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@...>
(I sent this via comp.lang.ruby in June, but it didn't seem to
[#107666] mailing list? — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>
did something happen to the mailing list/. number of messages that
[#107668] Test-First vs. Bottom-Up — Chris Pine <cpine@...>
Hello,
[#107703] Cool use of Ruby as extension language — Lennon Day-Reynolds <rcoder@...>
From Slashdot:
[#107715] Stupid ODBC! — Lennon Day-Reynolds <rcoder@...>
So, in response to David's call for contributions of adapters for
On Jul 28, 2004, at 18:04, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
That's what I was afraid of. Maybe I can use the 'info' method on the
On Jul 28, 2004, at 18:38, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
Well, that's closer, but it still isn't a totally general solution,
On Jul 28, 2004, at 19:31, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 15:04, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
Sean,
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 17:31, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
Sean: I like the idea of a seperate component that handles nothing but
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 23:06, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Sean O'Dell wrote:
On Thursday 29 July 2004 10:41, Ara.T.Howard wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Sean O'Dell wrote:
Why not take the approach of using a autoid function if you have it
[#107740] Rails 0.5.5: Windows, WEBrick, lots! — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Rails 0.5.5?
David, when you said on IRC that this is going to take some time I
>> * Added webrick dispatcher: Try "ruby public/dispatch.servlet --help"
[#107761] Automatically setting attributes — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#107766] Net::SSH 0.0.5 — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Net::SSH 0.0.5 is now available! (Yes, this comes hard on the heels of
[#107775] IO issues: forking, select, and duplexing — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Suppose I have a source and a sink of data. These are IO-like,
[#107790] ulimit alike in ruby? — Patrick Gundlach <clr3.10.randomuser@...>
Dear ruby-hackers,
| Dear ruby-hackers,
[#107792] class and case — "E.-R. Bruecklmeier" <unet01@...>
Hi,
[#107800] Access MS SQL data — Gene Leung <gene.leung@...>
Hi all,
On Jul 29, 2004, at 10:49, Gene Leung wrote:
Hi Nathaniel,
[#107832] C ext: GC claiming objects early — Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@...>
Hi,
>>>>> "T" == Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@code-monkey.de> writes:
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> [2004-07-30 15:43]:
[#107838] Including other people's Ruby libs in your package — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>
I'm writing some code that depends on MIME::Types, and works better with
> I'm thinking now of putting the third-party Ruby files into a local
Aredridel wrote:
[#107850] ri-emacs — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
[ANN] Ri for (X)Emacs 0.1
[#107867] defined? in ruby-1.9 — "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#107870] Re: Including other people's Ruby libs in your package — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#107906] Forward references? — Lloyd Zusman <ljz@...>
Is there a way to define forward references to functions? Due to my own
[#107916] AllInOneRuby — "Erik Veenstra" <pan@...>
I'm pleased to announce the birth of AllInOneRuby.
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:16:57 +0900, James Britt wrote:
[#107935] Upcoming release of Ruwiki needs some testers... — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>
Hi, folks.
[#107983] natcmp.rb added to string class — Patrick May <patrick@...>
Hello,
[#107984] Free(real Free) GUI toolkits — David Ross <drossruby@...>
Has anyone tried using the WideStudio libraries with
David Ross wrote:
> I haven't tried this (or even heard of it before),
Hello David,
> I hate myself for asking this question:
Oh a correction, by binary, I meant statically linked
Hmm.. does anyone have a MacOSX computer they can try
Hello David,
"Truth is important, knock down the trolls on thier
Hello David,
David Ross wrote:
>> And i must say i don't understand your attitude,
Hello David,
>
It's amazing to see how much one bad apple can spoil the barrel.
> It's amazing to see how much one bad apple can spoil
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 12:58, David Ross wrote:
David Ross wrote:
That's good to hear. I've only been on the mailing list for 90 days, so
David Ross wrote:
I think you've got a poor understanding of the (L)GPL, buddy. You can
In article <410CAD5B.8030405@illuzionz.org>,
Reinder Verlinde wrote:
Hello Rando,
Re: Which compiled language is closest to Ruby?
"Robert Klemme" <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<2m4dhrFis860U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> "Uwe Schnitker" <schnitkerAffenschaukel@sigma-c.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag news:30381f67.0407192151.25675ec2@posting.google.com...
> > Gully Foyle <nospam@nospamnospamnospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<hXHKc.38807$eH1.18448437@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > I am currently using C++ as my compiled language but fell in love with
> > > Ruby recently :)
> > >
> > > Which compiled language is the closest to ruby?
> >
> > Isn't that obvious? C++, of course.
>
> You are kidding, are you?
No.
> > > Are there any that are
> > > object-oriented
> >
> > Both C++ and Ruby are multi-paradigm languages that support OO
> programming,
> > but don't try to enforce OO programming.
>
> I don't subscribe to that. Ruby is much more OO than C++.
IMHO this depends on how you define OO. It's clear that Ruby
supports some programming techniques that C++ doesn't. If you
consider these techniques to be esential for OO, your statement
would be correct.
OTOH, I think it's bogus to call a language "less OO" because it
supports programming techniques that are not OO >> in addition
to << those that are.
Would you consider Ruby to become "less OO" if Matz added e.g.
direct support for Prolog-style logic programming, or for finite
state machines, or whatever?
So why do you call C++ "less OO" just because it supports
procedural programming and programming with concrete
non-polymorphic classes >> in addition to << programming
with polymorphic objects?
> C++ has POD's,
> functions, static etc.
Yes, and Ruby has all this Perl stuff: Globally accessible
handles, non-oo regexp syntax, ... So what?
> In Ruby, everything is an object and every method
> has a receiver.
Yes, and this has some nice effects.
But I find it important that you can ignore this: I can, e.g.,
write a global function in Ruby like I could write it in C++,
even if it's implemented in a totally different way.
> > (Unless, of course, you define OO
> > to necessarily include dynamic typing. And please note that I also
> understand
> > that Ruby is implemented in an OO-centric way - "everything is an
> object" -
> > but my point is that, unlike with (earlier versions of)
>
> I don't see the point in comparing current Ruby with old versions of Java
> or whatsoever.
I just wanted to take into account that Java and C# are being
enhanced with generics now. The "earlier version" I wrote about
are what is currently used.
> > Java, C#, etc., you
> > can write (and call) free functions,
>
> If you are referring to static methods, then that's not true for Ruby.
> There is no such thing as a static method in Ruby.
I'm referring to what other people call global functions (this
term just doesn't make that much sense any more now that these
are typically put into a namespace).
> > you can write generic code without casts,
>
> You can write generic code,
That's what I want to do.
> because Ruby is dynamically typed, but Ruby
> does not support generic programming
If I can write generic code, I can do generic programming.
The important issue is the thought process: With statically
typed OO, you have to say "this algorithm can sort objects of
any class that implements the ISortable interface" or "with
this objects, objects of any class that implements IListener
can register for notification", with generic programming you
say "this algorithm can sort objects of any type that defines
a suitable comparison" or "with this object, you can register
for notifiction any (member) function, to be called on any
object".
> (like C++ with templates, Java
> Generics and others do). Although this may sound paradox, I'd say that a
> static typed language is prerequisite for having generics. And sice Ruby
> is not static typed there's simply no need for generics.
So there is no need for explicit generic programming support.
Fine with me.
My claim was "you can write generic code", not "Ruby has some
special features to support generic programming".
You might say that a truly object-oriented language intrinsically
supports this king of generic programming. No problem.
But this amounts to almost the same as saying that a truly
object-oriented language must be dynamically typed, which is
quite a stretch. But I've no problem with that either, it's
just a differently scoped definition of OO.
> > you can write "functional" code, ... That's multi-paradigm programming.)
>
> I get the impression that you base your measure for closeness on this buzz
> word. Personally I don't think this is a good choice. Of course, there's
> always a perspective from which certain things look similar. But the
> question is how much information do you gain by stating "C++ and Ruby are
> similar because they share some very abstract concepts". That'll be true
> for Ruby and other programming languages, too.
Pardon, but you misunderstood me. I'm not talking about abstract
concepts regarding programming language research. I'm talking about
abstract concepts regarding designing and implementing code, which
is - or at least should be, sigh - my daily work.
Need an algorithm to work on objects of any specified type
-> think generic
Need to process different objects using only their common behavour
-> think OO
Need to dispatch any operation created by the batch file parser
-> combine OO and generic thinking and use a polymorphic functor
template facillity.
[I'm caricaturing - is that a word? - here. But just a bit.]
> > > and have support for blocks/closures?
> >
> > OK, C++ doesn't support blocks/closures, but with templates and function
> > objects etc. you can get fairly close. (Using libraries like function,
> bind
> > and lamda from boost it's even quite easy and straightforward to write.)
>
> Blocks and closures are built into Ruby, while functors and such are an
> add on of the std lib.
Yes, but C++ was specifically designed - and continues to evolve -
this way: Never add good stuff if it can be done with the standard
library just as well. (Of course, defining the border is alway
debatable, but the principle stands.)
> And they are not as convenient and easy to use as
> Ruby blocks. My 0.02EUR.
Well, I suppose that >>anything<< can be said to be "not as convenient
and easy to use" in C++ compared to Ruby. But the original question
was about "coming close".
<SNIP>
> > When I first learned about Ruby, I instantly liked it, thinking:
> > Hey, that's great, all the cool techniques I have been using in C++,
> > especially when programming with STL and stuff (boost, Loki, whatever
> ...,
> > and that I really like to use with C++, will be available in Ruby, too.
>
> Ruby forces (or convinces) you much more to use these technics while C++
> can be used in much more different ways and styles.
From what I've seen of - and programmed in - Ruby so far, you can
often use a lot of different techniques in Ruby to achieve the
same goal.
That you can write code in C++ using FORTRAN style, C style or
Java style, often, but not neccessarily, with very bad results,
is true. But you can do the same in Ruby, or any other language,
as well. (Maybe the difference is that some C++ sub-communities
are dedicated to doing so. But won't you find "typical
(Perl|Phyton|Java|whatever) converts" in Ruby as well?)
> The fact, that you
> can apply some of the technics Ruby uses in C or Assembler does not make
> these languages similar to Ruby IMHO.
In theory, you can simulate any technique in any language. The
difference between C++ and, say, C in this regard is that C++
allows library writers to support addition programming
techniques >> in an abstract way <<.
E.g., a C library can never make sure that every object is
initialized correctly, but has to rely on the user calling
an init function. A C library can support sophisticated
user-defined callbacks, but can not ensure type safety
and allow flexibillity at the same time.
But, hey, this is getting theoretical, language
categorizing, again.
I'm just a programmer, so I care more about how a language
feels when I work with it. And to me, C++ and Ruby are so
totally different, but also so much the same, that's a
pleasure to use Ruby when opportunity arises.
(I just wish that someone with more relevant
experience would write a Boost.Ruby lib soon.)
> Regards
>
> robert
Regards,
Uwe