[#96272] IO.seek behaving strangely on FreeBSD 4.9 — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
Hi,
[#96275] Re: Syntax: eval( "a = !a) != eval( "a = not a") — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
>> x = 23 == 23 && ! y = 42 == 23 #=> false
[#96287] Kwartz feature requests — Shu-yu Guo <shu@...>
Kuwata-san he,
[#96298] how to match acented letters on windows — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
Hi gurus and nubys,
[#96308] HTML parsing by REXML — Paul Argentoff <argentoff@...>
Hello world.
[#96311] error handling — mopthisandthat@... (Phidippus)
I'm evaluating a function at various values in a for loop. The
[#96321] parent of TrueClass, FalseClass — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
Hi,
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 00:34:20 +0900, Ara.T.Howard wrote:
Hi
[#96338] Modules and TestUnit — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#96394] CGI oddity — "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry@...>
Hi,
[#96404] Variable names — David King Landrith <dlandrith@...>
About a year ago, I wrote a simple type enforcement library that adds a
>>>>> "D" == David King Landrith <dlandrith@mac.com> writes:
On Friday 02 April 2004 2:43 pm, David King Landrith wrote:
On Apr 2, 2004, at 3:51 PM, Dan Doel wrote:
On 03/04/2004, at 7:35 AM, David King Landrith wrote:
[#96409] Madeline - avoiding Command objects by 'Delegate'? — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
Madeline is a great persistence alternative to databases. However, explicit
[#96447] Learning Ruby, was a C geek... — Nicholas Paul Johnson <nickjohnson@...>
Hello all,
Received: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 08:37:54 +0900
:)
Received: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:26:46 +0900
[#96451] ruby, cygwin and paths — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
This is almost not a ruby question... But I need a ruby solution!
[#96504] recursion w/ blocks; *this — Nicholas Paul Johnson <nickjohnson@...>
Hello again,
[#96513] Any chance to see Exception#resume in Ruby2 ? — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
Hi gurus and nubys,
[#96520] good module use? — Bauduin Raphael <rb@...>
Hi,
[#96554] Difference between to_s and to_str — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
There has been some discussion on this topic in the thread "deciding
[#96593] Array#fetch weird second argument — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
While adding a testcase to rubicon for Array#fetch, I discovered that
[#96601] define_method and blocks — "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@...>
Hi
[#96603] line directives — Andrew Johnson <ajohnson@...>
Does ruby support anything like #line directives in C or Perl? or
[#96608] ANN: (product) New Ruby IDE Mondrian looking for beta testers — "Oliver Smith" <olivers@...>
Hello! This is simultaneously to announce the launch of a product website
[#96626] Re: how to match acented letters on windows — "Mehr, Assaph (Assaph)" <assaph@...>
[#96634] Where does the name Rite come from? — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
Hi,
Yukihiro Matsumoto (matz@ruby-lang.org) wrote:
Hi all,
[#96640] Bug in sub? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#96651] Using CVSGRAB to grab packages from Rubyforge - not working — Shashank Date <shanko_date@...>
I am using cvsgrab (on Win 2K Prof) to grab packages
[#96697] Idea: Simplified GTK — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Here's an idea. I've begun implementing it.
In article <4073C9EC.7020400@hypermetrics.com>,
Phil Tomson wrote:
Its Me wrote:
Received: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:18:53 +0900
Gregory Millam wrote:
> But coding using the EzGtk example doesn't feel so much like a program,
Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@yahoo.com> writes:
At 07:44 08/04/2004 +0900, you wrote:
Of the two:
Gregory Millam wrote:
Received: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 03:13:24 +0900
Gregory Millam wrote:
[#96698] Ruby and Sun-RPC or ONC-RPC ? — Shirish Joshi <joshirish_nntp@...>
Hi,
[#96725] Ruby 2.0 and "warning: don't put space before argument parentheses" — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
Will 2.0 stop issuing this warning for
[#96754] Preferred Instance Variable Access Method — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
What's the preferred way of accessing a class's instance variables?
[#96794] perl pos function equivalent in ruby? — "John W. Long" <ng@...>
What's the equivalent to perl's reexp pos function in ruby?
[#96813] OpenBSD / Sparc — ts <decoux@...>
Hi,
[#96831] Training course? — cadeguy@... (Partha)
Hello,
[#96837] need help with recursion — "Boris \"BXS\" Schulz" <bxs@...>
Hi,
[#96854] Would a ':=' operator break anything? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
[#96876] RedCloth bug and suggestion — Jim Menard <jimm@...>
_why_ and fellow RedCloth users,
Jim Menard wrote:
_why_,
Jim Menard wrote:
_why_,
Dave,
[#96877] Instiki 0.3.0: Before the Storm — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Instiki 0.3.0?
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> I have one question. How do I shutdown instiki so that its in memory
What about a 'preview' button? How hard would it be to add?
> What about a 'preview' button? How hard would it be to add?
[#96905] MS Access(with special characters) -> MySQL — "Ruby Tuesday" <rubytuzdayz@...>
How do I transfer my MS Access DB to MySQL?
[#96925] Time upper limit — zzqzpfynevsei@... (xor)
What are the upper limit on the values for Time class and where are they documented?
[#96958] Continuation usage — Patrick Roemer <sangamon@...>
Once again I've been trying to get a grip on continuations, however, I'm
[#96975] proposal - zip to do padding — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
We already have pad with nils
[#96976] zip block oddities/bug? — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
When supplying a block to zip, shouldn't you
[#96984] Problem with special characters like 端旦辰 (german: umlaut) — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#97008] win32api find display size — Michael Hale <michael@...>
[#97020] test / unit question: facility to mark some tests as "missing" or "incomplete" — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
I often find myself with some unit tests that run, and several more test
At 10:29 AM 4/15/2004, Its Me wrote:
[#97029] Two different results for Module.nesting — Brian Marick <marick@...>
Consider this:
Brian Marick wrote:
[#97030] FXRuby: overload FXSlider — martinankerl@... (Martin)
Hi all,
[#97060] openssl ciphers — Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
This is just an update on my last message. I managed to figure out how
[#97062] embedded code construct a la perl — Vince Forgetta <vince.forgetta@...>
Hi all,
[#97069] ANN: Alexandria 0.1.1 — Laurent Sansonetti <lrz@...>
Hi,
[#97077] Instiki 0.5.0: Getting Serious — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Instiki 0.5.0?
il 14 Apr 2004 16:31:15 GMT, ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) ha
[#97083] New Ruby questions... — Jeff Massung <jma@...>
I've just started Ruby a couple days ago (man this is cool). Coming from
[#97095] ruby pty/expect help — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
>>>>> "A" == Ara T Howard <Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov> writes:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, ts wrote:
[#97101] Interesting Scoping Rules — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
* Charles Comstock <cc1@cec.wustl.edu> [0424 01:24]:
Dick Davies wrote:
Hi --
[#97109] New Local Variable Scope rule — "Shashank Date" <sdate@...>
In one of Matz's slides at RubyConf ,
[#97116] include? needs parentheses? — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
I find this kind of odd.
[#97134] BlueCloth: a Markdown implementation for Ruby — Michael Granger <ged@...>
Hi all,
Nice, I'd just run upon Markdown a few days ago and immediately wondered
On Apr 14, 2004, at 7:47 AM, Jim Moy wrote:
> If I get things working well enough, I'll contribute a patch back to
In reference to Instiki:
[#97142] New HTML Toolkit Idea — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
I was thinking today about how much I hate writing scripts to generate
[#97173] Comments on Ruby — dejaspam@... (Bill Atkins)
I've been using Ruby for about a month now and it's become my favorite
[#97186] Ruby's standard objects — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>
Hi group,
[#97201] File locking, portably? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Searching the web and books for information on this, I can't seem to
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
As a side note on implementation, is there a particular reason you chose
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Charles Comstock wrote:
On 2004 Apr 15, at 1:49, Ara.T.Howard wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, John Platte wrote:
[#97253] Hash == not always working? Or am I missing something? — walter@...
Hi everyone,
[#97277] Hash, ==, key-value comparison — walter@...
Ok,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 02:04:10AM +0900, walter@mwsewall.com wrote:
[#97278] parser for DL interface — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#97290] source browser anywhere? — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>
[#97291] Precompiled RMagic on Win32 (rubyinstaller build) — Richard Kilmer <rich@...>
Does anyone have said compiled extension for the prag prog
[#97295] dbi: parent / child relationship — Paul Vudmaska <paul@...>
I've got a few situations where i'm selecting a parent child
[#97308] Instiki 0.6.0: Feeds, Exports, Safety, and Compatibility — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Instiki 0.6.0?
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> How is it we actually password protect a Wiki? I notice it mentioned
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
[#97329] LD_RUN_PATH — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#97342] Bug in String.index? — mkcon@... (Martin Kahlert)
Hi!
[#97349] What's "io/nonblock" — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Ara's "session" package tries to require 'io/nonblock' and fails on my
[#97351] "bad file descriptor" in Win32 DLL — "Christian Kaiser" <chk@...>
Using Ruby 1.81, the DLL (msvcrt-ruby18.dll) sometimes raises an exception
[#97363] BlueCloth 0.0.2 (beta) — Michael Granger <ged@...>
Hi,
> Thanks to all of you that have offered your suggestions and code. I
On Saturday, April 17, 2004, 8:05:19 AM, David wrote:
* David Heinemeier Hansson <david@loudthinking.com> [0407 23:07]:
> It's not a wiki feature so much, but is there a reason you don't use
[#97375] a good guide to ruby-tcl\tk — "Boris \"BXS\" Schulz" <bxs@...>
Hi,
[#97378] Ruby blogs — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
I'm messing around with the various blogging tools written using Ruby
[#97401] Class instance method can't be defined in a module? — John Platte <john.platte@...>
Trying to work some attr_accessor - style magic so I can refactor a
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 07:32:07AM +0900, John Platte wrote:
[#97405] RubyConf 2004 — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
Hello,
> Tentatively October 1-3 in Washington DC/Northern VA.
Hi,
* Chad Fowler (chad@chadfowler.com) wrote:
Paul Duncan wrote:
The Ruby Installer 1.8.1-12 for Windows has been released and is now
Some feedback: rdoc and ri still don't work out of the box:
As has been reported on the website, ri.bat is still broken, rdoc.bat is
John W. Kennedy wrote:
Linus Sellberg wrote:
il Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:59:12 +0900, "Curt Hibbs" <curt@hibbs.com> ha
[#97418] Objects in perl6 (rubyish :) — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
Hi gurus and nubys,
[#97426] $0 is messed up — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
I have just upgraded to 1.9 16-apr-2004 from 1.9 7-apr-2004.
[#97449] Raggle 0.3.1 — Paul Duncan <pabs@...>
Hi,
I saw in the screenshot there were google feeds?!?!?
[#97451] Delete a directory with all sub-directories an files — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:53:48 +0200, Dirk Einecke wrote:
Hi Simon.
[#97473] convert yield to proc — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
How do you guys convert yield to block ?
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:42:58 +0900, ts wrote:
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:59:07PM +0900, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
>>>>> "Z" == Zsban Ambrus <ambrus@math.bme.hu> writes:
[#97475] Slides/notes, RubyConf2003 — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Hello, all.
[#97530] add elment on the first index of an array — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#97533] How do I insert into an array? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
I want to add an item just before the end:
[#97547] Re: How do you know it quacks like a duck? — Dan Doel <djd15@...>
Just use it as you would a Time object.
Wrote Dan Doel <djd15@po.cwru.edu>, on Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 09:55:43AM +0900:
Ah, I see what you're saying. Sorry I misread.
[#97565] Gateway — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>
Hi --
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:40:28 +0200, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 01:17:59 +0900, Aredridel wrote:
[#97628] Instiki 0.7.0: Flavors of Expression — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Instiki 0.7.0?
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
[#97631] proposal: call_up() for use in redefined methods — Mark Hubbart <discord@...>
Hi all,
Hi --
[#97640] Fox --> GTK ? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Who has experience converting Fox to GTK and might like to
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:28:19 +0900,
il Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:11:33 +0900, Hal Fulton
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 23:28, Hal Fulton wrote:
[#97645] Free VC++ Compiler — Jim Moy <web@...>
I noticed an article on /. reporting that Microsoft is now giving away
[#97705] The quest for opensource database... — "Ruby Tuesdays" <NoSpamPlease_rubytuzdaiz@...>
Perhaps you database guru able to suggest what would be a good choice for
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:38:06 +0900
[#97710] Just testing whether I can post on this NG — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
Test
[#97741] C ext best practices — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#97743] Setting up a wiki when you don't have root — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:07:30 +0900, Chad Fowler wrote:
Phil Tomson wrote:
[#97778] Re: efficient collect+compact ? — "Daniel Sheppard" <daniels@...>
Actually, using inject is much less efficient. When using that method,
[#97785] Creating bang methods — "Jon Hurst" <jon@...>
(newbie) I can't for my life figure out how to create bang methods. Please
On reflection, perhaps I have not been clear enough. I would like to create
Hi --
[#97789] idiot's guide to druby using ssh tunnels — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>
[#97796] UNIXSocket#send_io and #recv_io — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Someone pointed these out to me yesterday, and said they were
[#97797] rexml: how to get element type? — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
doc = REXML::Document.new <<EOF
gabriele renzi <surrender_it@remove.yahoo.it> wrote in message news:<hl2d80tenhogq1j97hgh3i3ue1t3p3caej@4ax.com>...
[#97808] binding - how to get current script? — Szymon Drejewicz <drejewic@...>
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:18:18 +0200, Szymon Drejewicz wrote:
[#97825] A Ruby WishList — "James, Roshan (Cognizant)" <JRoshan@...>
Hi Folk,
[#97826] Ruby proposal: MAIN_BINDING — Szymon Drejewicz <drejewic@...>
[#97866] Is Ruby is better than PHP ... — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets_remote_this@...>
or perhaps Java for developing web application?
Hello Useko,
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Lothar Scholz wrote:
What is Iowa?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, rolo wrote:
Ruby and PHP are two differents thing. Ruby is used for command line
[#97873] Re: how to get ri/rdoc working for 1.8.1 on Windows? — "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@...>
Part 1 is to chdir \Ruby\bin and delete the five *.bat files
Hello John,
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:50:40AM +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
Dave Thomas wrote:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 01:03:36PM +0900, Curt Hibbs wrote:
Jos Backus wrote:
On Thursday, April 22, 2004, 4:44:09 AM, Its wrote:
>
On Thursday, April 22, 2004, 11:22:14 PM, Dave wrote:
[#97891] 5.000...007.to_s => "5" — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>
irb(main):001:0> 5.00000000000007.to_s
Hi,
[#97892] printf / indent — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
How can I control starting (left) indentation for printf? Pickaxe did not
[#97968] MS SQL triggers and ruby — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
Is there a way for a trigger in MS SQL 2000 to fire some ruby code? I
[#97978] regexp-engine-0.8, perl5 + some perl6 — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
download:
[#97997] RedCloth 2.0.7 -- A Textile Humane Web Text Generator — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
more and more, you've seen it all before (i swear it's slowin down):
> I've wanted this feature to work right for awhile. It took a rewrite
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> I'm not keen on changing any existing syntax. But adding horizontal
[#98002] Re: Ruby on .NET (was Re: A Ruby WishList) — "James, Roshan (Cognizant)" <JRoshan@...>
//_I_ am not going to write an interpreter on .NET (nor on
[#98042] Latest Windows installer is backdated — Bret Pettichord <bret@...>
I found some interesting/anomolous reporting with ruby -v.
[#98064] Problem Module tar.gz for windows, — Panther <cmacaluso@...>
I think ruby has a "problem" with porting modules writes for linux and
[#98084] log base 2 and floats that don't look it — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
2 things:
[#98098] should method() returns singletons ? — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>
Hi gurus and nubys,
[#98101] Extract all occurences from a text — Michael Weller <michael@...>
Hi!
[#98114] Need ruby equivalent of perl's LWP (libwww-perl) — "Gavri Savio Fernandez" <Gavri_F@...>
hi,
[#98129] Re: find a best version (of a package) — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:17:14 +0900, saiph wrote:
[#98133] Talking with processes — dlinsky@... (Dario Linsky)
Hi,
[#98135] Problem assigning an Array object to an Array-subclass object — "Richard Lionheart" <NoOne@...>
[ I apologize if this is a second post. My earlier one seems to have gotten
[#98137] attr_accessor vs. local variable — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
Ruby not seem to predictably recognize attribute accessors (including
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Its Me wrote:
[#98162] Distributing Ruby DLL — "Christian Kaiser" <chk@...>
Hi,
[#98164] StringIO — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I've been playing with StringIO, and I've found that it doesn't inherit
[#98177] Psyco — Jim Moy <web@...>
Interesting stuff for Python, is any work like this being done in Ruby?
[#98181] Playing with sockets... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I'm writing a little expect-like piece of code and trying to test it
[#98189] Re: pushing hash — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Dave Thomas [mailto:dave@pragprog.com] humbly replied:
[#98203] Array to Hash — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Hi Ruby friends:
Hi,
[#98236] Re: Winole32 not Working in latest Winbdows Installer [was RE: Latest Windows installer is backdated] — "James, Roshan (Cognizant)" <JRoshan@...>
Thye have removed the library from the distribution.
James, Roshan wrote:
[#98244] win32-taskscheduler 0.0.1 — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)
Hi all,
[#98252] Propose Range.new(..., &succ) — Jeff Mitchell <quixoticsycophant@...>
The other day I had
[#98279] tk: how to dynamically remove / add widgets? — "Its Me" <itsme213@...>
I have a handle on a frame and a widget in that frame:
[#98281] String#unpack and null-terminated strings — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
[#98291] A way to do automagical instantiation of variables for a specific type — Charles Comstock <cc1@...>
I just discovered a pattern that I have found to be quite useful. In
[#98304] Eclipse Plug-In — Dirk Einecke <dirk.einecke@...>
Hi.
[#98319] Problem with socket — Ruby Ruby <ruby4lover@...>
[#98326] Instiki 0.8.0: Viv叩 Los Internationalis — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>
What's new in Instiki 0.8.0?
[#98327] RCR: Comparing multiple values — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
Hi list,
[#98341] rdoc - can I choose which methods are "attributes"? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
I thought I saw discussion about this once, but I don't see anything in
[#98342] rdoc bug - alias shows up in public class methods, wrongly — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
I have a class method and instance method with the same name, and #to_s
[#98362] How's ruby compare to it older brother python — "Hunn E. Balsiche" <hunnebal@...>
in term of its OO features, syntax consistencies, ease of use, and their
Amen, brother.
I agree that flaming the question is not appropriate and its also bad for
I'm not saying the topic isn't appropriate. I don't mind the topic, and I find
Dan Doel wrote:
"Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote in message
Hunn E. Balsiche wrote:
Hunn E. Balsiche wrote:
[#98365] Introducing myself - Sascha Ebach — Sascha Ebach <se@...>
Hello dear Rubyists,
Hello from Beethoven's home town,
Hello Jupp
Sascha Ebach <se@hexatex.de> wrote:
Simon Strandgaard wrote:
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> wrote:
A word of warning from a potential friend. Please don't take this negatively,
Mark Hubbart wrote:
Mark Hubbart wrote:
Mark Hubbart wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 06:00:17AM +0900, Sascha Ebach wrote:
Hi Michael,
Hello Stephan,
[#98366] How do I scale large Ruby web applications? — Sascha Ebach <se@...>
Hi there,
Thanks for all the comments so far. They are really helping.
thanks again for all these awesome hints.
[#98367] instance_eval from C ext — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#98380] Re: Please help -- is win32ole still part of the ruby distribution? — "James, Roshan (Cognizant)" <JRoshan@...>
//In ruby-win32 distribution page
Hi,
Thanks to all for you replies. Hopefully I will now be able to resolve this
[#98398] Variable matching — Rove Monteux <rove.monteux@...>
Hi,
[#98403] Instiki / Markdown bug — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
On the input:
[#98404] Instiki / Markdown bug (another) — Guillaume Marcais <guslist@...>
This time I have not yet found where in the input it chokes. But here
[#98405] Re: Instiki / Markdown bug — "Robert McGovern" <robertm@...>
Isn't that a valid error given your test input below is missing a
Well, I agree that it is a broken Markdown pattern, but I would think
[#98409] Semantics of Multiple Values — Kristof Bastiaensen <kristof@...>
Hi liszt,
Hi, here is my update RCR.
Multiple Values, Assignments and *Unifications*
[#98425] FoX: how to set font for an FXTable item — Yuri Leikind <y.leikind@...>
[#98435] Approaches to localization? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
I'm developing a GUI app using Ruby and FLTK. One of the requirements
In article <887E6B64-97BA-11D8-9038-000502FDD5CC@mac.com>,
il Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:31:45 +0900, nobu.nokada@softhome.net ha
[#98513] regexp engine 0.9 — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
download:
[#98540] Array#hash bug? — Mark Hubbart <discord@...>
Hi,
[#98548] Modifying metadata in an image file ... — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets_remote_this@...>
Does anyone aware of any program/apps/scripts that has the ability to
"Michael Neumann" <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote in message
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 04:39:04AM +0900, Useko Netsumi wrote:
[#98558] $stdin, thread blocking and DRb (for lack of a better subject :) — "Ken Hilton" <kenosis@...>
Greetings friends in Ruby-land,
[#98572] popen issues — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
Here's something I've never figured out.
[#98593] DRb & thread blocking. — "Ken Hilton" <kenosis@...>
Greetings,
[#98610] popen, popen3, and leftover processes — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I'm getting processes left lying around when I do things
Received: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:52:49 +0900
[#98613] Learning extending ruby — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)
Hello!
[#98633] rexml newbie confused — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>
[#98677] minor problem with ri -c — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#98682] alias or alias_method problem — Angel Martin <angel@...>
Hi all,
Hi,
[#98689] Install 1.8.1 on Mac OSX — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
On Wednesday, 28 April 2004 at 13:14:44 +0900, Shugo Maeda wrote:
I didn't have that problem- my ruby install went very smoothly.
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Nick Van Weerdenburg wrote:
[#98692] OSCON 2004 — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
Who is coming to OSCON this year? Once again it's being held here in
[#98693] Pointers in Ruby — Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@...>
Hi,
[#98699] How to get homedir ? — "Florent 'flure' C." <flurePASDESPAM@...>
Hello,
[#98714] Ruby under Suse Linux — Mike Calder <ceo@...>
Hi.
>>>>> "M" == Mike Calder <ceo@phosco.com> writes:
I do read README and INSTALL files. I did the original installs in the
>>>>> "M" == Mike Calder <ceo@phosco.com> writes:
That's the information I wanted, thanks. At least the reason for failure has
[#98741] Should StringIO support to_str ? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
How is one supposed to get a string from a StringIO? If it is an
On Friday, April 30, 2004, 3:30:54 AM, Hugh wrote:
[#98750] coerce(), what protocol to implement it — Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@...>
Hi,
At 03:45 30/04/2004 +0900, you wrote:
Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
[#98758] File.expand_path(__FILE__) — John Platte <john.platte@...>
I'm having a problem with File.expand_path(__FILE__) after a chdir.
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:28:43 +0900
Simon Strandgaard wrote:
Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
Simon Strandgaard wrote:
On 2004 Apr 30, at 9:39, Robert Klemme wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, John Platte wrote:
[#98796] SciTE Ruby Lexer — Kaspar Schiess <eule@...>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Kaspar Schiess <eule@space.ch> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Kaspar Schiess <eule@space.ch> wrote:
[#98820] ruby CVS can't use shared libs on NetBSD — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>
>>>>> "D" == Dick Davies <rasputnik@hellooperator.net> writes:
* ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> [0419 16:19]:
* Dick Davies <rasputnik@hellooperator.net> [0411 18:11]:
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 12:13:22AM +0900, Dick Davies wrote:
[#98832] def [](v) xx; return yy; end # returned value is ignored !? — Jean-Hugues ROBERT <jean_hugues_robert@...>
Hi,
At 01:49 01/05/2004 +0900, you wrote:
At 05:40 01/05/2004 +0900, you wrote:
On Sat, 01 May 2004 15:28:05 +0900, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
[#98851] Lazy evaluation — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>
Hi,
At 03:45 01/05/2004 +0900, you wrote:
Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:
il Sat, 01 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Kristof Bastiaensen
In article <c6uh31$gaq2i$1@ID-7468.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Phil Tomson wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
ts wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
ts wrote:
>>>>> "F" == Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> writes:
Florian Gross <flgr@ccan.de> wrote:
[#98876] RubyGems 0.3.0 — Chad Fowler <chad@...>
Hello all,
Chad Fowler wrote:
[#98881] logger.rb does not rotate files properly — Xavier <NOSPAM@...>
I thought I'd mention that logger.rb does not rotate log files after it
Re: deciding between ruby and python
Hal Fulton wrote:
> Ville Vainio wrote:
>> That is, string can know about sequences, but a sequence, being a more
>> general data type, should not know about strings.
>
> I'd have to disagree. join, since it produces a string, obviously
> knows about strings even though it is not a string method.
I think Ville means that making join a method on a list means that lists
must now know about strings. Unfortunately, removing join as a list
method still leaves lists knowledgeable about string for every object
implements a to_s method.
In fact, knowing nothing but that to_s exists, you can write join like
this ...
def join(delimit)
inject { |a, b| a.to_s + delimit + b.to_s }
end
I have also heard (on c.l.py) that one reason the " ".join() form was
chosen was to allow join to be polymorphic on string type. This would
allow join to be implemented differently in subclasses of string (such
as a UnicodeString class perhaps). Since join can be defined in terms
of existing list methods (as we did above), there is no need to make
polymorphic on lists or sequences.
However, making join a string method is neither necessary nor sufficient
for a polymorphic behavior string subclass to be used.
For me, the big reason to make join a method in list is readability.
Allowing methods chains that read linearly left to right is a big plus,
overriding the other considerations in this case. (YMMV)
BTW, neither form is "more OO" than the other.
>> As far as FP goes, allowing t.split w/o () is extremely non-FP,
>> because you lose first class functions. And FP without first class
>> functions is, well, Java.
>
> I don't know FP either, but I thought method chaining was an important
> part of it. Because of the disconnect I mentioned earlier (where join
> is not actually acting on its receiver), the previous example doesn't
> show true method chaining.
Neither Ruby nor Python are functional languages, however both exhibit
some features that are found in function languages.
When people think of features of functional languages, they primarily
refer to two features in particular ..
(1) Stateless programming
(2) Higher order functions
Stateless programming means writing code that calculates a result
without changing the state of the program as it executes. This style of
programming has many advantages, but neither Ruby nor Python adheres to
this style, except in small snippets of code.
A functional language treats functions as first class data. This means
that functions can be passed about as data, and that operations can be
performed on these functions that produce new functions. A higher order
function (in my perhaps flawed understanding) is a function that takes
other functions as operands.
Here's a concrete example ... Suppose you had a function f(x,y) that
returns the value x+y. Now write a another function curry(f,n) that
returns a brand-new function object. This new function should take one
argument (x) and return the value x+n (where n was the value passed to
curry).
If your language can write functions like curry, then you have first
class functions and higher order functions. And this can be done in
both Ruby and Python.
[... from an earlier message ...]
>> actually, I tend to think Ruby's OO
>> is crippled by not having functions as first class objects.
I find it interesting when people claim that Ruby has no first class
functions, mostly because Ruby doesn't have functions in the first
place. What looks like functions are really methods on objects.
Methods exist inside an object and like the proverbial quark, are never
seen outside of an object. Unlike functions which are explicitly
called, methods are always invoked by an object in response to receiving
message consisting of a message selector and a list of arguments.
Sometimes we abbreviate and pretend we are calling functions, but it is
still objects, methods and messages[1].
Question: If Ruby methods aren't function, how can we do functional
programming?
Answer: With a poor man's function!
At this point it is useful to quote Anton van Straaten where he sums up
his own enlightenment with these koan (see http://tinyurl.com/2m7p9):
The venerable master Qc Na was walking with his student, Anton.
Hoping to prompt the master into a discussion, Anton said "Master, I
have heard that objects are a very good thing - is this true?" Qc Na
looked pityingly at his student and replied, "Foolish pupil -
objects are merely a poor man's closures."
Chastised, Anton took his leave from his master and returned to his
cell, intent on studying closures. He carefully read the entire
"Lambda: The Ultimate..." series of papers and its cousins, and
implemented a small Scheme interpreter with a closure-based object
system. He learned much, and looked forward to informing his master
of his progress.
On his next walk with Qc Na, Anton attempted to impress his master
by saying "Master, I have diligently studied the matter, and now
understand that objects are truly a poor man's closures." Qc Na
responded by hitting Anton with his stick, saying "When will you
learn? Closures are a poor man's object." At that moment, Anton
became enlightened.
If objects are a poor man's closure, they certainly can be a poor man's
function as well. In Ruby, we use objects as functions. Any object
that responds to the call message can be used, but by far the most
common functional object is the Ruby Proc/Lambda object.
Here's the curry operation mentioned above, but done with first class
function objects in Ruby.
f = lambda { |x, y| x + y }
curry = lambda { |f, n| lambda { |x| f.call(n, x) } }
g = curry.call(f, 2)
g.call(3) #=> 5
In summary:
o "def" defines a method, not a function, first class or otherwise.
o What looks like a function call is really a message send to an object.
o Ruby uses objects for its functional programming. Since the function
is an object, calling it involves a normal object-style message using
"call" as the message selector.
I'll close with this thought. Ruby and Python are perfect examples of a
duality between functions and objects. Where Ruby begins with objects
and builds functions out of them, Python begins with functions and
builds objects out of them. And what is really surprising is that
despite the rather fundamental differences in their semantic foundation,
the languages are more alike than they are different!
--
-- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org http://onestepback.org
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"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
[1] I'm not trying to imply that all method invocations involve the
reification of a message. In fact, I have little knowledge of what
goes on under the covers in the C implementation. I'm only saying
that obj.method is semantically equivalent to obj.send(:method).