[#91151] Python 25 times as popular as Ruby !? — llothar@... (Lothar Scholz)

Hey,

112 messages 2004/02/01
[#91154] Re: Python 25 times as popular as Ruby !? — Dan Doel <djd15@...> 2004/02/01

Lothar Scholz wrote:

[#91197] ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert K." <anon@...>

Hi,

29 messages 2004/02/01
[#91200] Re: ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/02/01

[#91210] Re: ruby way to enumerate users — "Robert K." <anon@...> 2004/02/01

>

[#91213] GUI toolkit — Robert <bobx@...>

Has the community decided on a "standard" Ruby GUI toolkit? I know the

21 messages 2004/02/01

[#91225] Rubyx (linux distro created using ruby) - Bootstrap volunteers required — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

Rubyx is almost ready to go public :)

11 messages 2004/02/01
[#91229] Re: Rubyx (linux distro created using ruby) - Bootstrap volunteers required — "Zach Dennis" <zdennis@...> 2004/02/01

I'm here to be used and abused, ever since the post on ./ I've put aside a

[#91251] Method Reflection — Benedikt Huber <benjovi@...>

I'm quite new to ruby and was amazed by the powerful reflection

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91269] test::unit caller stack feature request — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

A typical call stack of mine look like the following.

18 messages 2004/02/02

[#91274] Silly question — Brad <BCoish@...>

All:

27 messages 2004/02/02

[#91286] code that has been reached — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Does there exists a tool for Ruby which records which parts

28 messages 2004/02/02

[#91307] Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

I'm trying to decide which Ruby web application framework to use (if

64 messages 2004/02/02
[#91312] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/02

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#91317] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Chris Morris <chrismo@...> 2004/02/02

Kirk Haines wrote:

[#91322] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/02

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Chris Morris wrote:

[#91411] Re: Ruby Web Application Framework Roundup — gm@... (George Moschovitis) 2004/02/03

paul vudmaska <paul@vudmaska.com> wrote in message news:<401ECA9F.4070903@vudmaska.com>...

[#91310] OpenGL — Martin larsson <morg@...>

Hello

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91315] role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...>

Hello there,

46 messages 2004/02/02
[#91349] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — "Its Me" <itsme213@...> 2004/02/02

See Ruby Object Teams http://sourceforge.net/projects/robjectteam/

[#91358] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...> 2004/02/03

Thansk for the link, it looks interesting but it is perhaps too complex

[#91542] Re: role pattern lib for ruby — shasckaw <shasckaw@...> 2004/02/04

shasckaw wrote:

[#91543] what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/02/04

Is there a description of it somewhere?

[#91570] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2004/02/04

Sam Roberts wrote about Object Teams:

[#91571] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ruby) — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2004/02/04

Pit Capitain wrote:

[#91573] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ru by) — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/02/04

Well, that was some good links, but they're all pretty hand-wavy about

[#91593] Re: what is aspect-oriented s/w? (was Re: role pattern lib for ru by) — "T. Onoma" <transami@...> 2004/02/05

I think I can give a reasonable overall picture of AOP.

[#91323] Questions about stdout/stderr combining (for Windows & Linux) — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...>

I'm working on a build tool, and I need to execute various

12 messages 2004/02/02

[#91364] shell scripts in background (with &) - why would they stop? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

Shouldn't a Ruby script keep running if someone uses the "&" at the end of the command?

15 messages 2004/02/03

[#91407] RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — Guoliang Cao <gcao@...>

Hi,

41 messages 2004/02/03
[#91417] Re: RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2004/02/03

[#91548] Re: RCR draft for enhanced "case..when..else..end" syntax — Austin Ziegler <austin@...> 2004/02/04

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:45:07 +0900, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#91412] Image conversion ... — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets_remote_this@...>

Hi, is there any Ruby code snippets I can use to transform my photo to lower

29 messages 2004/02/03

[#91430] Arachno Ruby IDE — Yura Kloubakov <yura@...>

13 messages 2004/02/03

[#91435] ruby-serialport on Win32 — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>

Hi group,

19 messages 2004/02/03
[#91496] Re: ruby-serialport on Win32 — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/02/03

On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 02:15:04AM +0900, Stephan K舂per wrote:

[#91436] ARGV problems — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>

i seem to be having a problem with ARGV.

20 messages 2004/02/03

[#91488] eistein's riddle — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

18 messages 2004/02/03

[#91565] New Computer, version, confusion — Ronald E Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I just got a new computer and need to get stuff moved over to it.

14 messages 2004/02/04

[#91590] An assimilators guide to Python? — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>

Hi!

24 messages 2004/02/05

[#91626] HTML Parsing? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

20 messages 2004/02/05

[#91633] YAPV (Yet Another Pickaxe Version) — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

As promised in another thread, I am working on a new web version of the

29 messages 2004/02/05

[#91641] Fw: [XP] A Job Posting : Extreme Programmer needed. — Pit Capitain <pit@...>

I found this today on the extreme programming mailing list:

13 messages 2004/02/05

[#91652] impersonating ruby — "Robert K." <anon@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2004/02/05

[#91665] Is there any way to mark an object as "always in use" (specifically, in a C extension)? — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>

Some background ...

17 messages 2004/02/06

[#91680] mkfifo in Ruby 1.8? — "Basile Starynkevitch [news]" <basile-news@...>

Why is (the library call) mkfifo missing in Ruby 1.8? Is there a way

25 messages 2004/02/06
[#91735] Re: mkfifo in Ruby 1.8? — nobu.nokada@... 2004/02/07

Hi,

[#91737] pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...> 2004/02/07

I just installed ruby-1.8.1 and found this problem.

[#91743] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2004/02/07

Hi,

[#91760] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/02/07

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#91775] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — nobu.nokada@... 2004/02/08

Hi,

[#91779] Re: pty.so: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/02/08

nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:

[#91682] Is 1.8.2 imminent? And detecting Rubyx version — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I'm holding off an 'official' release of Rubyx (ruby based linux distro)

18 messages 2004/02/06

[#91710] Email parsing — Rove Monteux <rove.monteux@...>

Hi there.

16 messages 2004/02/06

[#91777] I卒m too dumb to program — Lester_t_linpord@... (Lester T. Linpord)

Because I危 a moron.

13 messages 2004/02/08

[#92507] Opinion: Ruby + OpenOffice.org — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hi guys,

17 messages 2004/02/09
[#92511] Re: Opinion: Ruby + OpenOffice.org — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...> 2004/02/09

Check the latest issue of The Linux Journal. James Britt wrote an article

[#92631] ruby-dev summary: 22688-22826 — Masayoshi Takahashi <maki@...>

Hello all,

19 messages 2004/02/11

[#92649] (noob) cast string to array? — Koncept <user@...>

25 messages 2004/02/12

[#92692] ANN: Ruby Standard Library Documentation, v0.9.0 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi folks,

12 messages 2004/02/12

[#92771] return from yielded block — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

13 messages 2004/02/13

[#92986] A good way to do a book? — bobx@... (Bob)

http://www.sourcebeat.com/index.jsp

18 messages 2004/02/16

[#93039] Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

Is there a tar.gz that corresponds to

24 messages 2004/02/17
[#93042] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/17

Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#93048] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...> 2004/02/17

James Britt wrote:

[#93074] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/17

Gavin Kistner wrote:

[#93078] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/02/18

James Britt wrote:

[#93113] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...> 2004/02/18

James Britt wrote:

[#93118] Re: Builtins RDoc tarball? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/02/18

[#93055] Why's (Poignant) Guide to Ruby, Chapters 1 to 3 — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Greetings. Man, I'm giddy about this announcement. My blood is visibly

24 messages 2004/02/17

[#93104] how to raise warning? — Szymon Drejewicz <drejewic@...>

How to raise warning?

20 messages 2004/02/18

[#93162] speed benchmarks comparing Ruby to Py/Perl/PHP/etc? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

I know Ruby wasn't created to make a fast-running language.

12 messages 2004/02/19

[#93180] Ruby to Parrot compiler — Mark <msparshatt@...>

Is there anyone working on a compiler for compiling Ruby code to work on

28 messages 2004/02/19

[#93193] proposal: let kind_of take more arguments — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

It just hit me.. why not let kind_of? take more arguments?

21 messages 2004/02/20

[#93243] Instance variable capitalization — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

I have a question about how ruby-like is it to capitalize

12 messages 2004/02/20

[#93260] Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Larry Felton Johnson <larryj@...>

This is just a note introducing myself to the list, and

75 messages 2004/02/20
[#93855] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com> 2004/02/27

il Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:32:13 +0900, Mark Hubbart <discord@mac.com> ha

[#93857] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Mark Hubbart <discord@...> 2004/02/27

On Feb 27, 2004, at 11:19 AM, gabriele renzi wrote:

[#93858] Re: Introducing myself and my interest in ruby — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...> 2004/02/27

Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#93874] Ruby Compiler [was Introducing myself and my interest in ruby] — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/02/28

Hal Fulton wrote:

[#93936] FreeRIDE 0.6.0-1 -- a Windows Update — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2004/02/29

Until now, the FreeRIDE debugger did not work under windows. We now have a

[#93298] Puzzling... — "Ruby Tuesday" <rubytuezdayz@...>

Hi, I have these 2 files, one work and the other does not.

41 messages 2004/02/20

[#93321] Calling JDBC from with Ruby — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I am building a web application for a client in Ruby. The application is working but now needs to access data using JDBC. My client is requiring both ODBC (for Windows) and JDBC (for Sun) access to data. I am looking for an example of how to use JDBC from within Ruby. I have looked at Jruby but would prefer to write my own code rather than rely on a third party add-on that is beta, especially one that has not been updated in a while. If I write the data access portion in Java that uses JDBC, can I then write a Java wrapper that would allow Ruby to call the Java methods? Are there any examples available showing how to call a Java method from within Ruby similar to the C interface to Ruby?

21 messages 2004/02/21

[#93374] Tycho - A PIM under development — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

Hello, all.

17 messages 2004/02/21

[#93425] ANN: PLD RPMs of rake and ruby-dbi and a plea to packagers — Aredridel <aredridel@...>

I've just created packages (including .spec files to be used as

10 messages 2004/02/22

[#93459] Appropriate use of camelCase — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

Following the 'instance variable capitalization' thread, I'm convinced

46 messages 2004/02/23
[#93516] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/02/24

Hi --

[#93523] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2004/02/24

Chunky bacon!

[#93526] Re: Appropriate use of camelCase — Kirk Haines <khaines@...> 2004/02/24

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#93464] Need examples comparing Ruby to Python — David MacQuigg <dmq@...>

I'm putting together a web page comparing Ruby to Python, and I need

35 messages 2004/02/23

[#93485] Ruby-gtk ? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

16 messages 2004/02/23

[#93632] proposal: debug keyword — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

A debug keyword which enables debug-output for a specific method.

13 messages 2004/02/25

[#93654] Operators +, += and = in Ruby 2 — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>

12 messages 2004/02/25

[#93732] Why don't $global and @instance variables need declaration? — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

Sorry if the answer is obvious, but I can't find a satisfactory or more

10 messages 2004/02/26

[#93734] language contest ==> unit test framework from lisp to ruby — Piergiuliano Bossi <p_bossi_AGAINST_SPAM@...>

A few days ago I made a post (rubytalk:92963 ==> [2]) about the

13 messages 2004/02/26

[#93865] UnboundMethod#hash apparently broken in 1.8.1 — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>

18 messages 2004/02/27

Re: flip flop operator proposal (from condition to condition do )

From: Jamis Buck <jgb3@...>
Date: 2004-02-04 00:21:49 UTC
List: ruby-talk #91508
Phil Tomson wrote:

>
>Another idea would be to have a 'from (condition) to (condition)'
>statement that looks looks like:
>  from l=~/BEGIN/ to l=~/END/ do
>    #do something in this range
>  end
>  
>

What if we just use the keyword 'in' to introduce a flipflop, and retain 
the range-ish syntax to separate the conditions?  Something like this:

  if in l=~/BEGIN/ .. l=~/END/
     ...
  end

The advantage of using a boolean phrase is that you can use it in 
conditions, where it is most common.  That also lets you do something 
when the flipflop is false, which the 'from..do' construct you suggested 
doesn't (easily) allow.

Since getting at the object that encapsulates the state of the flipflop 
will be less common (one might even say "rare", although its hard to say 
at this point since neither Perl nor Ruby allow it), the common case 
(just getting the boolean result) should be simple and straightforward.  
Getting at the object might be done via something like this:

  in l=~/BEGIN/ .. l=~/END/ => state

The expression itself still returns boolean, but the object 
encapsulating the flipflop is placed in 'state'.

I took the 1.8.1 source and tried hacking at it to introduce this 
syntax, and managed to get the 'in' keyword working as above.  Problem 
is, I'm not a bison expert, and I'm certainly not very familiar with the 
inner workings of Ruby's parser, so I keep getting 2 reduce/reduce 
conflicts caused by the 'in' keyword... not sure how to fix that.  And 
when I try to use '=>' to assign the object, I get 27 shift/reduce 
conflicts (which I think I understand, but I'm not sure how to fix).  
I'd be happy to send a patch to anyone interested, but it's really 
pretty trivial, and (as I said) imperfect.

I tried introducing new keywords to fill these roles, but the means by 
which Ruby does its keyword lookup is pretty arcane, and it is not 
immediately obvious how to add a new keyword.  Any gurus of Ruby's inner 
workings that could clarify how to do this?

I'd be especially interested in hearing from the proponents of the 
flip-flop operator in Ruby as to whether this suggestion would "fit the 
bill."  If it isn't something they'd be comfortable using, then it is 
probably not the most appropriate solution to the problem.  However, I 
think it gets the best of both worlds -- it is clearer that you're 
dealing with more than just a range, and you can use it in more places 
than simply in conditions.

>I'm just sort of brainstorming here, but I think the 'from .. to ..
>{}' statement is very readable and the intent is quite clear and it
>just might be able to replace the current flipflop operators.
>  
>

I agree, 'from .. to ...' is very readable, but perhaps not as 
convenient given the regular usage of the flip-flop operator.  Then 
again, I'd like to hear from someone who uses the flip-flop a lot as to 
whether they feel it would be cumbersome.  Readability is good, but if 
you take it too far you get VB and Pascal, which are easy to learn, but 
clunky (IMO) to actually write software in.

-- 
Jamis Buck
jgb3@email.byu.edu

ruby -h | ruby -e 'a=[];readlines.join.scan(/-(.)\[e|Kk(\S*)|le.l(..)e|#!(\S*)/) {|r| a << r.compact.first };puts "\n>#{a.join(%q/ /)}<\n\n"'


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